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re: ESPN: Did the SEC force them to turn-around their anti-Jesus stance?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:07 am to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:07 am to KaiserSoze99
Christmas is about Jesus so it's offensive not to make him the center of it. Why is this even a debate??
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:09 am to DynastyDawg
nobody thinks the ad would be offensive. that's fricking stupid. Nobody is going to hear "jesus" in a commercial and just get pissed.
The issue is when it looks like ESPN is endorsing a certain set of views and all the political ramifications of those views.
if you fail to understand this, you are a clueless tard who should not be allowed outdoors.
The issue is when it looks like ESPN is endorsing a certain set of views and all the political ramifications of those views.
if you fail to understand this, you are a clueless tard who should not be allowed outdoors.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:11 am to scrooster
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When we start seeing peaceful Muslim-funded hospital commercials asking everyone to rejoice in the birth of Muhammad here in the United States ... well, we'll worry about that when it happens. I wouldn't hold my breath.
Right now they are too busy funding mosques where they secretly preach domination and the overthrow of our culture/country.
the amount of casual and accepted discrimination against muslims is really worrisome.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:16 am to NaturalLight00
Let's celebrate someone's birthday but not mention their name . Yeah that's makes a lot of sense.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:17 am to Brazos
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Brazos
lol at you trying to spin this bill o'reilly style into the fox news war on christmas
do you beat off to megyn kelly?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:20 am to NaturalLight00
Not spinning anything. Just pointing out the obvious.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:38 am to NaturalLight00
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lol at you trying to spin this bill o'reilly style into the fox news war on christmas
do you beat off to megyn kelly?
Are all you yankee Mizzou fricks really this dense?
At least you spelled her name correctly ... she's got a great set of gams does she not? I'm more a Martha MacCallum man myself. She just floats my boat. I'll believe anything she says.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:23 am to Brazos
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Christmas is about Jesus so it's offensive not to make him the center of it. Why is this even a debate??
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Let's celebrate someone's birthday but not mention their name . Yeah that's makes a lot of sense.
Technically, Christmas wasn't originally about Jesus Christ at all. It is 100% Pagan in origin and it was chosen by the church because it was being celebrated by a lot of people already and the church had no fricking clue when Jesus was really born.
If you really think about it, Jesus didn't say crap about celebrating his birth at all. He only said to celebrate his death. Many of our puritan forefathers and more fundamentalist Christian groups, considered it sinful tribute to mankind's pagan history. It was even once illegal in some colonies to even celebrate Christmas. Think about everything you associate with Christmas, then try to rectify it with someone born basically in the desert. It make no sense.
So in conclusion, How dare you insult Jesus Christ name by associating it with that pagan trash Holiday. I find it offensive that people keep putting his name with this sinful, pagan, commercial hogwash. It devalues Jesus Christ Death to a 2nd tier Holiday because of it. So I demand you wannabe Christians Stap it!!! right now. Espn is doing gods work.
Yes, im just screwing with you because I'm bored.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:08 am to Socratics
yeah Jesus was really born June 17 4 BC.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:18 am to Quicksilver
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yeah Jesus was really born June 17 4 BC.
I've read somewhere where that may be true based upon the stars and all that (although no one knows for sure and it's more of an estimate than anything) ... but I think the current holiday's date has something to do with ... well, let's do this the easy way with the understanding going-in that Christmas was being celebrated 300 years before Muhammad was born. Anyways ... LINK
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The Chronography of 354 AD contains early evidence of the celebration on December 25 of a Christian liturgical feast of the birth of Jesus. This was in Rome, while in Eastern Christianity the birth of Jesus was already celebrated in connection with the Epiphany on January 6.[39][40] The December 25 celebration was imported into the East later: in Antioch by John Chrysostom towards the end of the 4th century,[40] probably in 388, and in Alexandria only in the following century.[41] Even in the West, the January 6 celebration of the nativity of Jesus seems to have continued until after 380.[42] In 245, Origen of Alexandria, writing about Leviticus 12:1–8, commented that Scripture mentions only sinners as celebrating their birthdays, namely Pharaoh, who then had his chief baker hanged (Genesis 40:20–22), and Herod, who then had John the Baptist beheaded (Mark 6:21–27), and mentions saints as cursing the day of their birth, namely Jeremiah (Jeremiah 20:14–15) and Job (Job 3:1–16).[43] In 303, Arnobius ridiculed the idea of celebrating the birthdays of gods, a passage cited as evidence that Arnobius was unaware of any nativity celebration.[44] Since Christmas does not celebrate Christ's birth "as God" but "as man", this is not evidence against Christmas being a feast at this time.[7] The fact the Donatists of North Africa celebrated Christmas may indicate that the feast was established by the time that church was created in 311.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:32 am to AlwysATgr
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Loathor - we'll simply have to agree to disagree since I cannot accept your presuppositions.
Done and Done.
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If you'll accept it, have a Merry Christmas and God bless.
Right back atcha.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:48 am to Loathor
This morning brings us even more reflection on the unfair persecution of Southern Christians.
Phil Robertson, an avid LSU fan, has been suspended by A&E from the Duck Dynasty show.
A&E is owned by the same parent company as ESPN ... that being Disney.
Robertson's comments have drawn criticism from the lefty progressives ... many of them offering up "anti-redneck, anti-southerner" OP-ED pieces all over everywhere this morning.
Yet I ask you, will Disney or any of their channels including ESPN quit airing Cap One credit card commercials hosted by Alec Baldwin ... a rabid homophobe?
See the hypocrisy here?
Phil Robertson, an avid LSU fan, has been suspended by A&E from the Duck Dynasty show.
A&E is owned by the same parent company as ESPN ... that being Disney.
Robertson's comments have drawn criticism from the lefty progressives ... many of them offering up "anti-redneck, anti-southerner" OP-ED pieces all over everywhere this morning.
Yet I ask you, will Disney or any of their channels including ESPN quit airing Cap One credit card commercials hosted by Alec Baldwin ... a rabid homophobe?
See the hypocrisy here?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:00 am to scrooster
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This morning brings us even more reflection on the unfair persecution of Southern Christians.
For being the majority or whatever, Christians sure love to play the victim card. God forbid A&E make a business decisions cause some old man ran his mouth.
IMO both sides suck. Bunch of people overreacting cause he said mean things about gays and then a bunch of whiny assholes claiming that this "poor christian man" is being persecuted. No, an old bigot said something stupid thinking that Jesus gives him the right or whatever and a business had to react because our country is full of a bunch of assholes who can't stand opinions.
And why in the world is there even a 12 page thread about any religion on this board? College Football should be pure and without any religion.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:55 am to Damn Good Dawg
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For being the majority or whatever, Christians sure love to play the victim card. God forbid A&E make a business decisions cause some old man ran his mouth.
IMO both sides suck. Bunch of people overreacting cause he said mean things about gays and then a bunch of whiny assholes claiming that this "poor christian man" is being persecuted. No, an old bigot said something stupid thinking that Jesus gives him the right or whatever and a business had to react because our country is full of a bunch of assholes who can't stand opinions.
And why in the world is there even a 12 page thread about any religion on this board? College Football should be pure and without any religion.
You're right ... college football should be that way but ESPN/Disney made it about something else.
And why is it that it is okay for ESPN to allow Bob Costas to rant every week in line with ESPN/ABC/Disney's political views ... but it's not okay for a man, who was asked a specific question and answered honestly based upon his beliefs ... why is he not afforded the same freedom of speech rights?
If you really believe this is about a business decision, then you are pathetically naive.
THIS is about pushing a particular political agenda by the lefties ... THIS is about the hypocrisy of the left ... and THIS is about continued attacks on a region of the country, and our people, by the main stream media. Subversive attacks at that. And I am personally glad the SEC stood up to this and suggested they rethink their policies.
And Phil Robertson a bigot? lulz
You fricking hypocrite ... we're all bigots and racists of some sort, to some degree. It's part of the human genome. The looney left politically correct zealots are the worst of them all. They want the free speech ... but anyone who has a different opinion is not allowed free speech.
No segment of the population of this country has ever suffered more bigotry against them than Southerners ... black southerners, white southerners, chinese southerners.
You're not a damn good dawg ... you're a damn bigoted dawg - the epitome of it actually with your "old man" comment.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:57 am to scrooster
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If the rumors are true, that a call was made from B-ham to ESPN expressing concern, and rightfully so, then me personally ... honestly, I'm proud of the SEC for doing it. It could have had a negative effect on the launch and I'm all about Freedom of Speech in the process.
Agreed
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:58 am to NaturalLight00
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do you beat off to megyn kelly?
Who doesn't? That woman is fine!
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:59 am to scrooster
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Are all you yankee Mizzou fricks really this dense?
yankee- no
fricks -yes
dense -no
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:03 pm to everytrueson
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yankee- no
fricks -yes
dense -no
You're going to fit in fine around here.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:14 pm to scrooster
Television as it is today pretty much IS an advertisement for many crude and vile things, be that murder, offensive language, homosexuality, adultery, promiscuity, greed, cheating, lying, stealing, and on and on.
So these sensitive minorities need to suck it up and allow a little Jesus and God into their lives and stop complaining because it seems nearly everything BUT Jesus is contained within mainstream media.
So these sensitive minorities need to suck it up and allow a little Jesus and God into their lives and stop complaining because it seems nearly everything BUT Jesus is contained within mainstream media.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:19 pm to scrooster
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You're right ... college football should be that way but ESPN/Disney made it about something else.
And why is it that it is okay for ESPN to allow Bob Costas to rant every week in line with ESPN/ABC/Disney's political views ... but it's not okay for a man, who was asked a specific question and answered honestly based upon his beliefs ... why is he not afforded the same freedom of speech rights?
If you really believe this is about a business decision, then you are pathetically naive.
THIS is about pushing a particular political agenda by the lefties ... THIS is about the hypocrisy of the left ... and THIS is about continued attacks on a region of the country, and our people, by the main stream media. Subversive attacks at that. And I am personally glad the SEC stood up to this and suggested they rethink their policies.
And Phil Robertson a bigot? lulz
You fricking hypocrite ... we're all bigots and racists of some sort, to some degree. It's part of the human genome. The looney left politically correct zealots are the worst of them all. They want the free speech ... but anyone who has a different opinion is not allowed free speech.
No segment of the population of this country has ever suffered more bigotry against them than Southerners ... black southerners, white southerners, chinese southerners.
You're not a damn good dawg ... you're a damn bigoted dawg - the epitome of it actually with your "old man" comment.
I agree almost entirely with everything you said.
Though I refuse to directly attack anyone as that, I feel, does not make me look very good and I want people to respect my views and hopefully listen to them by showing respect.
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