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re: ESPN Article - Tunsil camp investigates fired "financial advisor" for hack

Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:18 am to
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:18 am to
Is there any issue with him hiring this guy in mid-October?
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:28 am to
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That hacked phone is bound to have many more incriminating text conversations. The hacker released a snippet when he knew he would do the most damage. We probably have only seen the tip of the iceberg.

Also, why does Tunsil need a lawyer at this point? He has no connection to OM at this point. Seems like a big waste of time and money when there is no chance of punishment.


So their investigating pretty much clears the so called hacker. If you give him your old phone, guess what? That's not hacking. He just found shite on a phone somevdumbass gave him without erasing it.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:29 am to
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there any issue with him hiring this guy in mid-October?




I don't see why, projected nfl draft picks hire financial advisors all the time. Now, if the financial advisor gave him a phone, that's a problem, for Ole Miss.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:42 am to
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I don't see why, projected nfl draft picks hire financial advisors all the time. Now, if the financial advisor gave him a phone, that's a problem, for Ole Miss.


How is that different than an agent, which you can't employ?
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:54 am to
so Tunsil could afford an advisor but not rent....hmmm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17279 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:02 am to
This could be the big one.
the ncaa will try to get the phone. If they do then question OM about what they find, and OM answers the question wrong, then Oh my. Lying, well don't do it.

Posted by Tidemeister
Member since May 2016
1234 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:06 am to
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Isn't this pretty much an admission that the texts were real?


Bingo.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1701 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:10 am to
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He got the old phone when he GAVE Tunsil a new phone in October during the OM season

Sounds like a burner phone to me...
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59535 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:10 am to
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accepts a $45 phone from a runner?

So the burner phones rumors could be true?
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:16 am to
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:33 am to
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This could be the big one.
the ncaa will try to get the phone


Yep, and if the guy was willing to post his text I bet he would have no problems giving the phone to the NCAA.

That might be his end game now. Pay up or the phone gets handed over to the NCAA. Maybe that's why tunsil has a lawyer. The guy is attempting to "sell" the phone. Either back to Tunsil, OM or give it to the NCAA.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:59 am to
Just because Tunsil gave him the old phone doesn't mean that the guy owns the instagram account, twitter account, e-mail etc.

If I sell someone my laptop, and forgot to log out of my bank, that doesn't mean they own the money in the account.

Once he changes his passwords, I doubt the phone has much value to the NCAA.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:00 am
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:04 am to
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Jason Pack, spokesman for the FBI office in Jackson, Mississippi, told Outside the Lines that his office hasn't been contacted about the case. Pack said he was unaware of any federal investigation into the incident.

"The FBI is not currently involved in the matter and has not heard from anyone involved in the incident," Pack said.


Good. I'm glad this was included.

Any "writer" that spewed that shite this week about the FBI being involved is an obvious liar at this point.

When are you dumbasses going to learn not to believe all the shite they keep feeding you?
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64841 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:04 am to
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Just because Tunsil gave him the old phone doesn't mean that the guy owns the instagram account, twitter account, e-mail etc.

If I sell someone my laptop, and forgot to log out of my bank, that doesn't mean they own the money in the account.

Once he changes his passwords, I doubt the phone has much value to the NCAA.


well, what could get dicey is if he took screen caps of any compromising posts from his social media. additionally, there's no telling what pictures could be stored on the phone itself. of course, this is all assuming the story about him having Tunsil's old phone is true. However, if the dude gives up Tunsil's phone to the NCAA, he's almost admitting to a crime, a felonious crime, as well, and opening himself up to a lawsuit. Anonymity is his friend right now.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:05 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:11 am to
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However, if the dude gives up Tunsil's phone to the NCAA, he's almost admitting to a crime, a felonious crime, as well, and opening himself up to a lawsuit.


If Tunsil gave him an unsecured phone with social media apps that didn't require a password (or shared the password with him), the runner isn't looking at any legal trouble at all.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64841 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:38 am to
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If Tunsil gave him an unsecured phone with social media apps that didn't require a password (or shared the password with him), the runner isn't looking at any legal trouble at all.


yes he would. it would still be unauthorized access regardless if the passwords were preloaded on the phone. I was wrong, in MS it's a misdemeanor. When I practiced in GA, it was a felony. However, if Tunsil can prove damages of more than $100 (he could), it becomes a felony

Title 97 - CRIMES
Chapter 45 - COMPUTER CRIMES AND IDENTITY THEFT
§ 97-45-5 - Offense against computer users; penalties


Universal Citation: MS Code § 97-45-5 (2013)
(1) An offense against computer users is the intentional:

(a) Denial to an authorized user, without consent, of the full and effective use of or access to a computer, a computer system, a computer network or computer services; or

(b) Use or disclosure to another, without consent, of the numbers, codes, passwords or other means of access to a computer, a computer system, a computer network or computer services.

(2) Whoever commits an offense against computer users shall be punished, upon conviction, by a fine of not more than One Thousand Dollars ($ 1,000.00), or by imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or by both such fine and imprisonment. However, when the damage or loss amounts to a value of One Hundred Dollars ($ 100.00) or more, the offender may be punished, upon conviction, by a fine of not more than Ten Thousand Dollars ($ 10,000.00), or imprisonment for not more than five (5) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59680 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:42 am to
I was right again.

It was never a "hack" it was just him being stupid to hand over or loose track of a phone with all that on it.

Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
3411 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:47 am to
Us financial advisors don't need more fricking hurdles to jump in this industry.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:00 am to
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(b) Use or disclosure to another, without consent, of the numbers, codes, passwords or other means of access to a computer, a computer system, a computer network or computer services.



Wouldn't him "giving" the runner the phone be consent, basically?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64841 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:01 am to
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Wouldn't him "giving" the runner the phone be consent, basically?

no it wouldn't at all. by giving the guy the phone, Tunsil did not consent to him using his social media accounts.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 10:02 am
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