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re: ESPN - Reports of Auburn bribing players
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:13 am to wdeinttown
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:13 am to wdeinttown
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A very thoughtful and interesting analysis of Roberts and her story, written by John Carvalho, an Auburn University professor of journalism.
This is a great read. He had me all the way until this:
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some respected folks have done that — Rheta Grimsley Johnson and Cynthia Tucker
Cynthia Tucker is turrble.
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:14 am to beaver
I wish someone with an actual voice in the media would call her out. Either produce recordings or go away. I mean, screw Auburn, but either either nail them to the wall or just admit you can't prove it. The last thing I want to read about all summer is another Bill Bell/John Bond circle jerk.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:17 am to beaver
Said Blanc, "We thought we would be without Mike Dyer because he said he was one of them, but Auburn found a way to make those dudes eligible."
How do you "twist" that?
How do you "twist" that?
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:17 am to KPCrimson
quote:Several.
1. How many times in the last 5 years has Alabama/Nick Saban/Whoever been accused on a national scale of potentially paying players?
quote:Several.
2. How many times in the last 5 years has Auburn/Chizik/Muschamp/Whoever been accused on a national scale of potentially playing players?
quote:You have to evaluate each incident or allegation independently these days because, unfortunately, there seems to be little difference in their journalistic standards.
3. Which is more reliable: ESPN/NYT or AuburnUndercover?
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:17 am to oklahogjr
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well between MSNBC being a left wing fox news and CNN deciding that there is no room for investigative journalism in their budget the honest answer is no one.
although Al Gore's Aljazeera is promising as they're very well respected across the rest of the world. I have no doubt that with a little time and american influence they'll be as shitty as the rest of them.
www.bbc.com
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:17 am to beaver
Cowherd just discussed this on his show and word of advice for my Auburn friends, save yourselves the blood pressure spike and dont listen. He said "Auburn is regarded as the dirtiest school in the SEC". Another quote: "I talked to a former SEC star athlete that played recently in college and he said he was offered big money to sign with Auburn but he "just didn't want to live there". He also brought up the 7 probations and said"the program should be shut down" He excoriated Auburn to the point where even I felt kinda bad for you guys.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:18 am to beaver
quote:Downplay ESPN all you want, they were just single handedly responsible for getting a coach fired. Said coach was already punished for his "crimes" when they suspended him and fined him more than many make in a year. It wasn't until ESPN made it their goal to get him fired that he was let go.
Considering ESPN isn't independently reporting this but rather using quote from a discredited "journalist"'s blog, I'd go with AuburnUndercover at the moment
All I'm saying is whether it was their independent study or not, a company as big as ESPN decided to go with it. Nothing will likely come from this, just like nothing came from paying the HBO boys or paying Cam's dad. Mainly rival fans like giving AU fans a hard time because this is big info from a really big company, and to say AU undercover is more credible than ESPN is
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:19 am to Govt Tide
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Cowherd just discussed this on his show and word of advice for my Auburn friends, save yourselves the blood pressure spike and dont listen. He said "Auburn is regarded as the dirtiest school in the SEC". Another quote: "I talked to a former SEC star athlete that played recently in college and he said he was offered big money to sign with Auburn but he "just didn't want to live there". He also brought up the 7 probations and said"the program should be shut down" He excoriated Auburn to the point where even I felt kinda bad for you guys.
so in otherwords he's doing his job. A "let it play out" stance isn't very sexy. Good for him.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:20 am to KPCrimson
quote:It is interesting that in one post you insinuate the journalistic credibility of ESPN and then in the next post insinuate the lack of journalistic integrity of ESPN.
Downplay ESPN all you want, they were just single handedly responsible for getting a coach fired. Said coach was already punished for his "crimes" when they suspended him and fined him more than many make in a year. It wasn't until ESPN made it their goal to get him fired that he was let go.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:20 am to Govt Tide
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Cowherd
..is a pathetic excuse for a radio host. Dan Patrick all the way. Cowherd does nothing but stir the pot and rustle jimmies for ratings purposes, it's disgusting.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:23 am to WDE24
quote:Come on man. AU Undercover pushing TTown suits, vs Cam, HBO, now this is not the same thing. Link me several times on a national scale in the last five years Alabama has been accused of potentially paying players. Show me where players said they knew of grade changes, show me where players knew of or were directly paid. You can't. Even if you go back as far as Jimmy Johns and his crap, he didn't come out and say (Since we know that criminals will screw the school right?) my grades were changed, I was paid, they all were paid, etc.
WDE24
Come on
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:24 am to jack6294
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:26 am to HerbEaverstinks
OK, fine. I laughed at that.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:26 am to WDE24
quote:It's more interesting that you're trying your best to misinterpret the post. You know how powerful ESPN is. That's the point. And while I think any company that says a coach should be fired for what the Rutgers coach did yet has Bob Knight on payroll has integrity issues, that doesn't negate the fact that they have more credible info, sources, etc than AU undercover. Period.
It is interesting that in one post you insinuate the journalistic credibility of ESPN and then in the next post insinuate the lack of journalistic integrity of ESPN.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:28 am to KPCrimson
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AU Undercover pushing TTown suits
when did this happen?
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:29 am to KPCrimson
quote:I thought every major outlet did a story or two on ttowns menswear. Your biased classification or pigeon holing ot AU undercover doesn't make that a fact.
AU Undercover pushing TTown suits, vs Cam, HBO, now this is not the same thing.
quote:I'm not searching for the stories, we all know them. Free suits, free meals, beach trips, etc.
Link me several times on a national scale in the last five years Alabama has been accused of potentially paying players.
quote:This is a new statement and not any part of what we were previously discussing. The only allegation you have now of a player that claims he knew of a grade change is McNeil regarding his own grade. It shouldn't be hard to investigate that. Otherwise you have a player possibly saying he thought one player might not be able to play in a game because of grades and then that player was able to play. Not really that insightful.
Show me where players said they knew of grade changes, show me where players knew of or were directly paid.
quote:With what?
Come on
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:29 am to lowspark12
Can we change the title of this thread to As The Plains Burn - The Redux ? I mean Jesus Christ lets pay homage to our past
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 am to KPCrimson
quote:Explain any misrepresentation.
It's more interesting that you're trying your best to misinterpret the post.
quote:I do. Power doesn't always equal credible. In fact, it often is quite the opposite.
You know how powerful ESPN is.
quote:Like I said, based on errant reporting, there is no basis for this assertion. You are equating national influence with credibility, which shouldn't be done.
that doesn't negate the fact that they have more credible info, sources, etc than AU undercover. Period.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 am to KPCrimson
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AU Undercover pushing TTown suits
That was SportsByBrooks and Clay Travis.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 am to Jma313
Well look at all the fun we are having on the SECr today. I have missed so much.
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