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re: Eric Smith and Nick Fairley
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:54 am to CrimsonTusk
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:54 am to CrimsonTusk
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jso, and he is tackling the quarterback while leading with his facemask and running through the player. That is a textbook form tackle
Leading with the facemask? Perfect form tackle? What picture are you looking at? He isn't wrapping up or even trying to grab and is leading with the crown of his head. I am not going to call it dirty but Mr. Dareus put himself at risk of a spinal injury more than McCoy was at risk for injury. That is NOT a perfect form tackle.
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:54 am to bmy
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after watching nick fairleys personal foul over again.. it wasn't bad at all
It was certainly a personal foul, but nothing like the Eric Smith knee. Smith probably deserved to get tossed. No reason for Fairley to even sit out a play
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:54 am to usc6158
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Eric Smith and Nick Fairley
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leading with his facemask
the crown of the helmet is now the facemask?
He made contact with this facemask at that point he is driving colt into the ground to finish the tackle. But this thread is about Fairley pushing a guys head into the ground and nodding his head approvingly after the personal foul was called and Eric Smith kicking a defenseless player.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:55 am to bmy
Is it wrong if I laugh at Fairley's foul? 
Definitely reminds me of Da U.
Definitely reminds me of Da U.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:55 am to usc6158
Eric Smith should not play another down of football. Do you know his history? That knee was the tip of the iceberg.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 11:56 am
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:56 am to Ross
Personally...I'm glad that Chizik doesn't do the same things Saban does.
Chizik would never cuss at his press conferences (see what I did there).
Chizik would never cuss at his press conferences (see what I did there).
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:59 am to tkane311
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Leading with the facemask? Perfect form tackle? What picture are you looking at? He isn't wrapping up or even trying to grab and is leading with the crown of his head. I am not going to call it dirty but Mr. Dareus put himself at risk of a spinal injury more than McCoy was at risk for injury. That is NOT a perfect form tackle.
Dareus was not at risk on the play. His back was not flat with his head down. He had his head slightly down, but made initial contact with his facemask. He then proceeded to move his feet as he completed the tackle/fell to the ground. He did not completely wrap up he had his hands grabbing mccoy's thighs.
But it is disingenuous to say he was at risk on the play.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:59 am to usc6158
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after watching nick fairleys personal foul over again.. it wasn't bad at all
It was certainly a personal foul, but nothing like the Eric Smith knee. Smith probably deserved to get tossed. No reason for Fairley to even sit out a play
Agreed 100%. If that had been anyone other than Fairley, the flag would have been suffienct. Although word is that something happened prior to Smith throwing the knee to set him off, I don't know what it was. It was embarassing as an Auburn fan and he should have been tossed out of the game. Hell, the guy required stitches...he probably should have been arrested...again.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:00 pm to Ross
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Eric Smith should not play another down of football. Do you know his history? That knee was the tip of the iceberg.
I do know his story and I do not understand why he is on the field. Why not play PL at his spot?
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:02 pm to tkane311
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Agreed 100%. If that had been anyone other than Fairley, the flag would have been suffienct. Although word is that something happened prior to Smith throwing the knee to set him off, I don't know what it was. It was embarassing as an Auburn fan and he should have been tossed out of the game. Hell, the guy required stitches...he probably should have been arrested...again.
I agree with this. I just think you sit Fairley their to send the message that doing something like that is extremely selfish and puts your team in a bad spot.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:04 pm to CrimsonTusk
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I do know his story and I do not understand why he is on the field. Why not play PL at his spot?
They play the same position. The only thing I know about his history is 1. This one personal foul 2. Getting sued by some guy he punched at a party.
I don't know...maybe he should have been kicked off the team but unless there is something that I don't know, it doesn't seem like a long pattern of behavior. He was suspended from the team for the arrest and I'm sure he is on a VERY short leash. With all the rap sheets on UF and UGA,'s rosters, I think AU is doing ok with one guy...with one arrest.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:06 pm to gatordmb89
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t) Difference is, Saban would tell Petey to beat it if he screwed up half as much as Eric.
Eric Smith punched a guy who poured a beer on him, Courtney Upshaw chokeslammed a girl?
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:06 pm to CrimsonTusk
Compelling story I am totally enthrallll.... 
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:08 pm to CrimsonTusk
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Dareus was not at risk on the play. His back was not flat with his head down. He had his head slightly down, but made initial contact with his facemask. He then proceeded to move his feet as he completed the tackle/fell to the ground. He did not completely wrap up he had his hands grabbing mccoy's thighs.
Dude..you could balance a yard stick across his back and helmet...and I don't pretend to be a physics professor but it makes sense to me that the reason McCoys head is bent waaaaaay back is that what you see in the picture is the point of impact. He is not grabbing McCoys thigh...the back of his hand might be brushing it. So what though? The guy was laying the wood to a QB that made the poor decision of entering his domain. I don't have a problem with it...but don't tell me that's a text book tackle...I really don't see how you are looking at that picture and coming to that conclusion.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:11 pm to tkane311
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Although word is that something happened prior to Smith throwing the knee to set him off, I don't know what it was. It was embarassing as an Auburn fan and he should have been tossed out of the game. Hell, the guy required stitches...he probably should have been arrested...again.
Although I agree the knee to the guys arsehole was uncalled for and embarrasing, but we never did see what had happened prior. The knee to the hiney did not cause the wound to the head. By the way those really awesome nike helmets were flying off all over the place. Something was wrong with the design.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:12 pm to jso0003
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Eric Smith punched a guy who poured a beer on him,
Lulz.
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Courtney Upshaw chokeslammed a girl?
Lulz again. You ain't got a fukn clue.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:41 pm to CrimsonTusk
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jso, and he is tackling the quarterback while leading with his facemask and running through the player. That is a textbook form tackle.
You are either...
a) blind
b) never played football
c) had the worst coach in America
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:09 pm to AUTigLN11
Fairley's PF wasn't that bad. It was worthy of a flag though, and it should have been thrown, imo. If another team did that to my RB, I'd want a flag thrown.
Smith's was definitely worse, and I've read in more than one place that he said the guy he kneed was doing some dirty work on him as they were tangled up on the kickoff. Obviously that doesn't mean retaliation is ok though. You almost always get the flag when you retaliate. But, he did knee the guy in the butt, not the head. I'm not saying I was ok with it at all, but I just want to make sure people don't think he was kneeing the guy in the head, because he wasn't. As for kicking him off the team? Please. It was a bad personal foul and I hope he runs til he pukes for it when spring ball gets back in gear, but he does not need to be kicked off the team for letting his temper get the best of him.
Smith's was definitely worse, and I've read in more than one place that he said the guy he kneed was doing some dirty work on him as they were tangled up on the kickoff. Obviously that doesn't mean retaliation is ok though. You almost always get the flag when you retaliate. But, he did knee the guy in the butt, not the head. I'm not saying I was ok with it at all, but I just want to make sure people don't think he was kneeing the guy in the head, because he wasn't. As for kicking him off the team? Please. It was a bad personal foul and I hope he runs til he pukes for it when spring ball gets back in gear, but he does not need to be kicked off the team for letting his temper get the best of him.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:20 pm to CrimsonTusk
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I just think you sit Fairley their
I think if anyone says they'd sit Fairley (there), They're, Lying through their teeth. It wasn't bad. Smith on the other hand, while it was a knee in the arse and the TV made it look like he cut the guys head, I wanted him ejected.. He should've never made it back to the field after that.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:28 pm to kage
I thought it was funny that after every big play that Fairley made, you could tell he was holding back celebrating so much so he wouldnt risk hurting his team, so he would do that little dolphin jump. And no, the PF wasnt that bad, but it was the right call.
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