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re: Does MSmoo have the talent to challenge 'Bama?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:25 am to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:25 am to CapstoneGrad06
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You don't have a clue what Mike Shula "left" Nick Saban to work with. Not a clue.
I've had this argument before- Shula left Saban 7 draft picks and other guys that signed as NFL FA's that played on that 2009 team.
Shula was 16-8 the two years before Saban got the job. To act like Saban inherited a mess is just horseshite
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:26 am to CoonassBulldog
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Even the 2009 NC team was littered with Shula recruits.
And none of them would have been as good as they were if not for Saban. Take Javier Arenas and Mike Johnson for example, two of our six All-Americans on that team. When Saban got to Alabama in 2007, Mike Johnson was a backup offensive lineman, was failing hard at school, and was on the verge of dropping out/transferring. Saban MOLDED him into the player he became. It had nothing to do with Shula and had everything to do with Saban.
The same can be said for Javier Arenas. Javy was recruited to Alabama to play RB. He never saw the field at that position and, if not for his two punt returns for touchdowns against Florida International and Oklahoma State in 2006, no one would have ever known his name. Javy was considering leaving the program when Saban was hired. Saban convinced Javy to stay, took him off the offense, and placed him at CB. Within two years, Javier Arenas was an All-American defensive back.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:26 am to CoonassBulldog
It's pointless arguing with the ignorant. You simply don't have a clue about what was going on under the surface with Nick Saban arrived.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:27 am to CoonassBulldog
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Shula left Saban 7 draft picks
As has been highlighted above, with the exception of Andre Smith, none of those "draft picks" would have been draft picks if not for Nick Saban.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:28 am to RollTide1987
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As has been highlighted above, with the exception of Andre Smith, none of those "draft picks" would have been draft picks if not for Nick Saban
that also applies to Crooms and Mullen wouldnt you say?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:29 am to CoonassBulldog
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Shula was 16-8 the two years before Saban got the job. To act like Saban inherited a mess is just horseshite
10 of those 16 wins were due to the '05 defense. The vast majority of those players were recruited by Fran in 2001 and 2002. Shula also was hands off when it came to the defense. All credit for their performance in '05 has to go to Joe Kines and his defensive assistant coaches.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:29 am to CoonassBulldog
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that also applies to Crooms and Mullen wouldnt you say?
Yeah...I would think it does. I wasn't arguing that Mullen wasn't a good coach.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:30 am to LBC
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Didn't he get arrested for having a gun in his car or something?
Yep, and the charges were dropped. Apparently it is legal to carry a pistol in your glove box in Florida.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:31 am to CoonassBulldog
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Shula was 16-8 the two years before Saban got the job
2003 4-9
2004 6-6
2005 10-2
2006 6-7
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:45 am to RollTide1987
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Oh...I realize it can be done - but only if we show up sleepwalking. If Alabama shows up motivated and ready to play against MSU, you have no chance.
I see you are already preparing an excuse, that's worse than a moral victory.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:46 am to Beer Bryant
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2005 10-2
2006 6-7
did Shula coach the bowl game?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:46 am to Beer Bryant
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Croom left MSU in better shape for Merlins. Saban did coach up what Shula left.
You are fricking high. Nutt left Ole Miss in better shape for Freeze than Croom did for Mullen.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:49 am to CoonassBulldog
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:49 am to CoonassBulldog
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did Shula coach the bowl game?
Nope. Joe "Crazy Eyes" Kines did. Shula's team, tho. BTW, that 2007 Bama team lost no game by more than 7 points.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:51 am to RollTide1987
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On the other hand, Tennessee was never in its game against Alabama at Neyland Stadium.
Right. A surefire TD pass dropped by Hunter with seconds to go in the half that would have pulled Tennessee to within 3 is "never in the game."
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:51 am to skirpnasty
If Alabama wins big, we will all hear about how overrated Mississippi's taint is. If Mississippi's taint wins, then we will all hear about how great the Gods of Ms. St. are. If Alabama Barely wins then we will hear about how we got exposed. Thank God Alabama doesn't have to play against ignorant fans, or we would lose every time. Roll Tide.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:54 am to Rolltide22
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Thank God Alabama doesn't have to play against ignorant fans, or we would lose every time. Roll Tide.
Hilariously ironic!
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:55 am to Beer Bryant
What was Crxxm's cruitin class rankings all those years he beat Bama? I'll hang up and listen
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:56 am to Tennessee Jed
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Talent, probably not.
Coaching, absolutely.
Got Damn you my my favorite Tennessee poster Jed. You a born grinder brah...
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:00 am to TheSecWEST
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I edited. I do not feel like arguing with idiots today, especially Ole Miss fans that are consumed by MSU and Bama fans that we shouldn't even show up. I saw a Utah team with no 4 or 5 stars beat the ever more dog shite out of a very talented Bama team loaded with 5 stars. I guess they didn't get the memo that you have to be highly ranked in recruiting to win.
Yeah because this isn't totally different circumstances or anything.....idiot.This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 11:00 am
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