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re: Do you consider Mark Richt a great head coach by whatever definition of great
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:40 pm to tigerfan4120
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:40 pm to tigerfan4120
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but was unlucky to never get to the NCG during that time
And that's exactly my point. He was unlucky to make it when other teams before and after him did with a loss. So how can we judge his coaching caliber on the luck of others? Either he's great or he's not. OSU getting a blown call in OT against Illinois or FSU missing a FG against Miami or UK choking against UT doesn't affect Richt's coaching ability. All those things did was just keep us out of the title.
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this year showed that UGA is not ready to tango with the SEC west.
Not really, all it showed was that we were a half short of beating the best team LSU has ever fielded.
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:41 pm to AUCE05
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It's what you, as a fan base, want.
Obvi, there's no denying that.
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I'd put him with Tubby
Richt is definitely better than Tubs.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:43 pm to davesdawgs
No. Great person, but always an underachiever with talented teams. When people have to keep blaming not having the right assistants in place to give Richt excuses somethings wrong. At the end of the day it all falls on Richts shoulders.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:43 pm to WG_Dawg
If he were our coach I would want him to stay, with 2 things for him to work on. Start recruiting your state better, and put a stop to all the player indiscretions. He can't, but he can make it a rule, that you toe the line here or go somewhere else.
Anyway, thanks for Mett....
Anyway, thanks for Mett....
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:44 pm to AUCE05
You don't have to win a championship to be considered a great coach IMO, it's all about circumstances. If Patterson stays at TCU his whole career and doesn't win a title, does that disqualify him from being a great coach? Obviously not, it's TCU.
But that argument doesn't help Richt. When you're the head coach of a team that's the leading football school in the state, and that state is a goldmine of talent, then yeah you probably have to win a title to be considered great. He's obviously underachieved after a good start. There's no real argument that he could be considered a great coach unless you have a real liberal interpretation of what it is to be a great coach.
But that argument doesn't help Richt. When you're the head coach of a team that's the leading football school in the state, and that state is a goldmine of talent, then yeah you probably have to win a title to be considered great. He's obviously underachieved after a good start. There's no real argument that he could be considered a great coach unless you have a real liberal interpretation of what it is to be a great coach.
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:44 pm to WG_Dawg
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Not really, all it showed was that we were a half short of beating the best team LSU has ever fielded.
LSU didn't even show up to play until the 2nd half in a game that they had little motivation/incentive to win. UGA threw everything but the kitchen sink at LSU, and once UGA actually got a lead and started playing like they had something to lose, the game was over. I'm sorry, but the two teams were not even close and UGA has a ways to go before catching up to Bama or LSU.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:44 pm to WG_Dawg
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Richt is definitely better than Tubs.
Really, he's not. You'll get 10 wins, but never a natty. I would rather have the crystal ball at my local walmarks.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:49 pm to WG_Dawg
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Richt is definitely better than Tubs.
You are soliciting opinions but you don't want to hear them. I think you could easily make a case for Tubs being on par with Richt; he accomplished as much (or more, with his undefeated season) as Richt at a program that does not have as many built-in advantages as UGA.
I actually have a UGA degree. I want UGA to be a great football team. I don't think Richt is the answer at UGA. He's going to benefit from the weak East for the time being, but I don't know if he is capable of coaching his teams to greatness. I think he once was capable of it, but has lost his edge. Just my opinion...
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:55 pm to tigerfan4120
I agree that he is a good coach. However, imo, his players do not respect him. He is not able to convince the talented players to stay that extra year. The energy bus doesn't work, time for something else.
Kids are different now, and I'm not sure that CMR wants to adapt at this point.
Good coach, yes. Great coach, not convinced.
Kids are different now, and I'm not sure that CMR wants to adapt at this point.
Good coach, yes. Great coach, not convinced.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:58 pm to davesdawgs
Richt may be a great coach at the right university.
BAMA makes average coaches good, good coaches great, and great coaches legends. UGA doesn't.
BAMA makes average coaches good, good coaches great, and great coaches legends. UGA doesn't.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:59 pm to RollDawgRoll
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:00 pm to tigerfan4120
He and Stoops would both benefit from a change of scenery. Some of the intensity edge seems to be gone from both.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:02 pm to davesdawgs
Richt is a great coach in my eyes. He's the 3rd best coach in the SEC behind Les and Saban.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:06 pm to RollDawgRoll
Very good coach. Perhaps his biggest shortcoming has been his inability to beat Florida.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:09 pm to davesdawgs
no
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:09 pm to beejon
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I like Richt. He's a good coach and above that, he's a class act. While he's no Les Miles, he has that kind of personal character.
Any school would be lucky to have him as coach, IMO.
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:12 pm to davesdawgs
Yes
He is moral and runs Ngoodmprogram
He is moral and runs Ngoodmprogram
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:17 pm to RollDawgRoll
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BAMA makes average coaches good, good coaches great, and great coaches legends
elaborate.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:23 pm to davesdawgs
great coach? no
very, very good, borderline elite who a lot of schools would love to have? of course
very, very good, borderline elite who a lot of schools would love to have? of course
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:24 pm to davesdawgs
He is a strong solid coach but he hasn't reached great. Not yet at least. As of right now he is good but not great
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