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re: Do yall believe there will be football this year?

Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by MeatPants
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Flattening a curve still leaves a curve.




A flat one...

In the big 1918 graph that was getting cited so much, the other curve was flat, while the curve where they did nothing was like the curve I see on that website.

I hope the website is right, because it predicts only 60k deaths. But where the hell is the flat.

Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:19 pm to
My take is that there some sort of middle ground to this. I think we are going to see that people that completely downplayed this were wrong. But you are going to see that sever panic that brought the world to its knees tha could leave long lasting scars may have not been the best tactic

If this lockdown only lasts a month or so, then it’s fine. But there has to be alternatives for this next year. Games without fans. Virtual concerts. Restaurants with only so many people in it. We can live with that. The way we are doing this now is not sustainable for a year

The only way we should be shutdown is a nuclear war or a virus like in the walking dead
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:23 pm to
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THE NUMBERS WERE WHAT THEIR MODELS SPIT OUT AT THEM!


And we believed them even though these same institutions had been putting out inaccurate climate change models for decades.

And no, you are incorrect, these models DID take mitigation into account. You're too much of a sheep, however, to see it as truth and admit to it. Sheep will always need a shepherd.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:24 pm to
A flat curve isnt a curve, it’s a straight line
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:31 pm to
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My take is that there some sort of middle ground to this. I think we are going to see that people that completely downplayed this were wrong. But you are going to see that sever panic that brought the world to its knees tha could leave long lasting scars may have not been the best tactic



Well it's a real virus and people are dying, there is no doubt about that.

People who are at risk should self quarantine and everyone else should be getting on with their lives.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:33 pm to
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A flat curve isnt a curve, it’s a straight line




Ok, how about a wider curve. Is that better?


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:37 pm to
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But you are going to see that sever panic that brought the world to its knees tha could leave long lasting scars may have not been the best tactic


proven how?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:57 pm to
You aren’t, if you were you would admit that you don’t know what you are talking about and just guessing like the rest of us. Instead, you claim you have some great equation that only the truly intelligent know about. Who knew there were so many aspiring epidemiologists in the World?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:59 pm to
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You aren’t, if you were you would admit that you don’t know what you are talking about and just guessing like the rest of us. Instead, you claim you have some great equation that only the truly intelligent know about. Who knew there were so many aspiring epidemiologists in the World?



Including the 80% of cases that don't get tested for and using that number to get an accurate view of the death rate is not that complicated.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:01 pm to
Because most people in the majority of states can’t afford to abide by it. Unless you work for the government, you can’t stay home for four weeks and get paid. I live in Georgia which has been hit pretty hard and relatively nothing has changed here.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:01 pm to
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But you are going to see that sever panic that brought the world to its knees tha could leave long lasting scars may have not been the best tactic




How are we defining severe panic? Because other than NYC that has been hammered with it, I haven't really seen what I would call a severe panic. Certainly the first week or two there was some panic buying at the grocery stores, but that has calmed down.

It's certainly been a huge disruption in everyone's lives, but I think for the most part people have handled it fairly responsibly and relatively calmly.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:03 pm to
It is when you are using the same metric as the flu, this isn’t the flu. As you say, it isn’t complicated
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:06 pm to
I’m assuming he means by the government
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:06 pm to
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It is when you are using the same metric as the flu, this isn’t the flu. As you say, it isn’t complicated



If you think including the 80% of coronavirus cases that are not tested for but are known to be happening is wrong when figuring up an accurate mortality rate, then there really isn't much else I can say.

Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:16 pm to
How can you prove that this did anything either. I believe this helps. I was a firm believer in that this should have been done right away but there can be diminishing returns

You can stop anything you want by locking people up in their Houses and making it go away

Do you want to eradicate people dying From airplane crashes. Never have a flight ever again. Done. Want automobile deaths gone. Close all streets. Stop building cars and destroy existing ones. Boom. Curve flattened

Is that reasonable. No. I’m. More skeptical day by day when you read 67% of the people who get hooked up to ventilator die anyways. Is that really helping when we flatten the curve for more hospital equipment

Right now the USA has the most confirmed cases. Which is approximately .1 of a percent of our population. That’s not deaths which would be an infantile decimal point

I am for changes during this year until we know more and maybe some vaccines are found etc. games without fans. Only have half your employees in the office at the same time. Restrictions on number of people in restaurants. But for god sakes start doing things a couple of months from now.

I would be very surprised that it even gets to the point of 1% of the worlds population ever even contract this virus or at least get sick from it
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:16 pm to
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think including the 80% of coronavirus cases that are not tested


Where did you come up with this number?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:23 pm to
My opinion is we're a bunch of pussies for shutting the world down over this shite.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41246 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:36 pm to
Would be much better to see massive death all over the place, am I right?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Would be much better to see massive death all over the place, am I right?

I don't think there would be massive death large enough to justify what's taking place with the economy. We accept some degree of death for the sake of the economy every day.
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