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Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:16 pm to stapuffmarshy
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Do the rant posters think that Auburn DESERVES to be awarded the 2004 NC?
Nope.
I want to start by saying that Auburn team was awesome. I was a Bammer at that point in my life, and I enjoyed watching them play. I still think USC was better though, but Auburn would have given them a game. Hell Okie turned over the ball like crazy in the 2nd quarter and the game was out of reach by halftime. Play that game five times, and I think it looks different.
Auburn has two things going against them.
1. The OOC schedule was horrific. Resume hurting. The point of the BCS is to take the teams with the two best resumes and let them play a game for the championship. Auburn did themselves no favors in this regard.
2. This was the worst the SEC performed record wise since 1990. It was certainly the most down year of SEC football the entire decade. It takes a bit of the shine off the undefeated run in the SEC.
It doesn't matter, the public has already established the idea USC was the champ that year. Title strip or no, this is how it's going to be remembered. So the question doesn't really matter.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:18 pm to stapuffmarshy
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:19 pm to MedDawg
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:19 pm to MedDawg
probably not no
should just be left vacant I guess
Auburn got screwed but there is nothing to do about it now
should just be left vacant I guess
Auburn got screwed but there is nothing to do about it now
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:24 pm to Duke
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1. The OOC schedule was horrific. Resume hurting. The point of the BCS is to take the teams with the two best resumes and let them play a game for the championship. Auburn did themselves no favors in this regard.
Da frick
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:25 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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AUtigerNOLA36
keep drinking the kool-aid bro
5 years from now this thread will be titled:
Does Oregon deserve to be awarded the 2010 NC?
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:26 pm to NYCAuburn
I may be remembering the wrong year man. I certainly remember that being one of the issues with Auburn's shot, you know beside OU and USC being up there all year.
ULM
The Citidel
La Tech
Yeah...shitty.
OU:
Oregon
Houston
Bowling Green (Finished 9-3 with Omar Jacobs at QB having a 41/4 TD to int ratio that year)
Better.
USC:
VT
Notre Dame
Colorado State
BYU
Clearly better.
ULM
The Citidel
La Tech
Yeah...shitty.
OU:
Oregon
Houston
Bowling Green (Finished 9-3 with Omar Jacobs at QB having a 41/4 TD to int ratio that year)
Better.
USC:
VT
Notre Dame
Colorado State
BYU
Clearly better.
This post was edited on 6/7/11 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:33 pm to Duke
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I may be remembering the wrong year man. I certainly remember that being one of the issues with Auburn's shot, you know beside OU and USC being up there all year.
ULM
The Citidel
La Tech
Yeah...shitty.
OU:
Oregon
Houston
Bowling Green (Finished 9-3 with Omar Jacobs at QB having a 41/4 TD to int ratio that year)
Better.
USC:
VT
Notre Dame
Colorado State
BYU
Clearly better.
How many ranked teams did each play?
Is what you are saying is that if Auburn played 5 ranked teams (all in-conference) and Oklahoma played 2 ranked teams (all in-conference), that Oklahoma having a slightly tougher OUT of conference schedule obviously makes Oklahoma more deserving?
So its all about out of conference scheduling?
All those tough SEC in-conference games mean nothing?
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:34 pm to stapuffmarshy
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stapuffmarshy
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keep drinking the kool-aid bro
no need
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5 years from now
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:37 pm to AUtigerNOLA
I don't care one way or the other bro, just find it funny that Auburn fans want one you didn't get when the one you did get will be gone just like USC
and BTW, the 04 Aubie team had a assist from the SEC refs in beating a rather avg LSU team so add that reason to the Auburn gets nothing list
and BTW, the 04 Aubie team had a assist from the SEC refs in beating a rather avg LSU team so add that reason to the Auburn gets nothing list
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:40 pm to Duke
So what you are saying 3 ooc games determines the strength of a teams schedule 
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:43 pm to stapuffmarshy
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and BTW, the 04 Aubie team had a assist from the SEC refs in beating a rather avg LSU team so add that reason to the Auburn gets nothing list
Regardless of the 04 season, the 2010 season is AU's. And there really isn't anything anybody can do about it.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:45 pm to beatbammer
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All those tough SEC in-conference games mean nothing?
From my OP:
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2. This was the worst the SEC performed record wise since 1990. It was certainly the most down year of SEC football the entire decade. It takes a bit of the shine off the undefeated run in the SEC.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:48 pm to NYCAuburn
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So what you are saying 3 ooc games determines the strength of a teams schedule
Did you even bother to read my OP? I think I explained my thoughts on the schedule very well. Auburn needed more in a down year in the SEC. A Div 1-AA hurts. To jump Okie or USC, they needed a quality win there too.
Like I said, the point of the BCS is to get the two best resumes over a season and let those two teams play for the national championship. Combo of factors, but Auburn did themselves no favors with that OOC. They just didn't have the normal strength of the SEC to fall back on that year.
This post was edited on 6/7/11 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:49 pm to Duke
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The OOC schedule was horrific.
We played more ranked teams than USC and Oklahoma that year, maybe more than both combined.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:57 pm to Duke
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Did you even bother to read my OP? I think I explained my thoughts on the schedule very well. Auburn needed more in a down year in the SEC. A Div 1-AA hurts. To jump Okie or USC, they needed a quality win there too.
Yes I did, Go back and look at the teams Auburn played vs. the others. Auburn's schedule>USC>OK look at the horrible teams they played in-conference
Essentially, we played 3x 10 win teams and a 9 win vs 2x 10 win and a 9 in USC's "beter" schedule
Down year in the SEC>PAC 10 up year>Big 12 Up year
This post was edited on 6/7/11 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:59 pm to blzr
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We played more ranked teams than USC and Oklahoma that year, maybe more than both combined.
Auburn played four teams in the regular season and SEC championship that finished the season in the Top 25. Two wins over #13 Tennessee (on road and neutral site), one over #8 UGA (home), and #16 LSU (home).
USC played three teams that finished in the Top 25, including Auburn's Sugar Bowl opponent #10 VT (neutral), #9 Cal (home), and #19 Arizona State (home).
OU played #5 Texas (neutral), and #18 Texas Tech.
Hard to really figure out sos at this point though, at least more research than I care to put in.
ETA: The SEC was generally the best conference at the time, but the divide wasn't what it is today and it was an especially down year. The conference divide that year isn't what everyone is making it out to be.
This post was edited on 6/7/11 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/7/11 at 3:02 pm to Duke
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Auburn needed more in a down year in the SEC
Tha frick?
#1 SCAL
8.28.04, #1 SCAL 24, #10 VT 13 (Landover, MD)
10.9.04, #1 SCAL 23, #9 Cal 17 (Pasadena, CA)
10.16.04, #1 SCAL 45, #19 ASU 7 (Pasadena, CA)
1.4.05, #1 SCAL 55, #3 OU 19 (Miami, FL)
#2 Auburn
9.18.04, #2 AU 10, #16 LSU 9 (Auburn, AL)
10.2.04, #2 AU 34, #13 TN 10 (Knoxville, TN)
11.13.04, #2 AU 24, #7 UGA 6 (Auburn, AL)
12.4.04, #2 AU 38, #13 TN 28 (Atlanta, GA)
1.1.05, #2 AU 16, #10 VT 13 (New Orleans, LA)
#3 OU
10.2.04, #3 OU 28, #18 Texas Tech 13 (Norman, OK)
10.9.04, #3 OU 12, #5 TX 0 (Dallas, TX)
Posted on 6/7/11 at 3:04 pm to Duke
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and #16 LSU (home).
10-9 with the refs giving the Aubies a "second" try at the extra point.....It was a failure all the way around
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