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re: Did Tennessee win a championship last night?

Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:24 am to
Posted by BUCK163
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:24 am to
AtcKyle is THE reason people make fun of the Air Force.
I have never met an ATC that wasn't a DB. Its like they teach it at Keesler.
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:00 pm to
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You never heard of Robert Heinlein?


Of course I have.

Stranger in a Strange Land is probably the shittiest sci-fi novel I've ever finished.

I should have thrown a confetti celebration and worn a "champs" shirt to celebrate I managed to finish it without puking.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Stranger in a Strange Land is probably the shittiest sci-fi novel I've ever finished.


I devoured Heinlein in high school.


Pretty advanced for the 1960's. One quote I recall was Jubal (the Heinlein surrogate) saying to his secretary Dorcas, "We are going to get busy - get political!"

And Dorcas says, "In that case I better get dressed."

"Reception[edit]

Heinlein's deliberately provocative book generated considerable controversy.[9] The free love and commune living aspects of the Church of All Worlds led to the book's exclusion from school reading lists. After it was rumored to be associated with Charles Manson, it was removed from school libraries as well.[10]

Writing in The New York Times, Orville Prescott received the novel caustically, describing it as a "disastrous mishmash of science fiction, laborious humor, dreary social satire and cheap eroticism"; he characterized Stranger in a Strange Land as "puerile and ludicrous", saying "when a non-stop orgy is combined with a lot of preposterous chatter, it becomes unendurable, an affront to the patience and intelligence of readers".[11]

Galaxy reviewer Floyd C. Gale gave the original edition a mixed review, saying "the book's shortcomings lie not so much in its emancipation as in the fact that Heinlein has bitten off too large a chewing portion."[12]

Despite such reviews, Stranger in a Strange Land won the 1962 Hugo Award for Best Novel[13] and became the first science fiction novel to enter The New York Times Book Review's best-seller list.[9] In 2012, it was included in a Library of Congress exhibition of "Books That Shaped America".[14] - wiki

Walt

UT '81

This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:09 pm to
Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" has been on the official Marine Corps reading list for decades. The movie is nothing like the book, which also won a Hugo Award.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:14 pm to
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I can claim to be the greatest blue eyed blues player since Duane Allman, but it wouldn't make it so.



You are an idiot, right? Bammer claims titles not sanctioned by the NCAA.

Alabama's claimed championships

1925-- The 1925 team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9-0-0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Washington in the January 1, 1926 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team initially fell behind the undefeated Huskies, but rallied in the second half to defeat Washington 20-19. The outstanding player of the game was Johnny Mack Brown. The 1925 Alabama football team finished the season with a 10-0-0 record and was selected national champions by Football Annual and the Helms Athletic Foundation.


1926-- The 1926 team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9-0-0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Stanford in the January 1, 1927 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team tied the Indians 7-7 to finish the season 9-0-1. The outstanding player of the game was Fred Pickhard. The team was selected as national champion by the Helms Athletic Foundation


1930-- The 1930 team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9-0-0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Washington State in the January 1, 1931 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team defeated the Cougars 24-0 to finish the season 10-0-0. The outstanding player of the game was John Campbell. Park Davis retroactively awarded Alabama a share in the national championship in his analysis for Spalding's Football Guide in 1934. The contemporary Dickenson, Dunkel and Houlgate rankings gave Notre Dame, also 10-0, the championship. The Fighting Irish are recognized as champions in the NCAA record book.

And so on.

Didn't you know that? I did.

LINK

Idiot.

Walt


UT '81

Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
21808 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:21 pm to
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Stir of Echoes



19-8

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13168 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:32 pm to
Can you please link me that record book from the NCAA you are referring to?

According to the NCAA website they only list UA as the 1925 NC and list UA & Stanford for 26 and both UA & ND for 30.

LINK

But would love to see this link if you have it.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:47 pm to
This is the link I found:

"List of Alabama Crimson Tide football national championships
This is a list of Alabama Crimson Tide football national championships. The school officially claims 16 championships, some of which are disputed."

LINK

Walt

UT '81
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13168 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:09 pm to
They need to update it as the NCAA list 14 not 12, but there at least not recognized that are questionable.

Thanks for the link was curious.
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:27 pm to
Just about anything prior to 1971 is pretty questionable. 1970 is the last year the NCAA recognizes more than two "consensus" national champions. After that there are split "consensus" champions, but never more than two.

The AFL and NFL also fully merged right around then, so it seems as good as any time to mark the emergence of the modern era for football.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:35 pm to
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"Half the people in the space program, today and this past half century were lured in by Robert Heinlein and those who followed his path..."

Does that count Von Braun?

Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:45 pm to
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@ WhiskeyPapa


You know that same ncaa.com website I have linked for you several times, that shows UT with only 2 legitimate claims to a national title? Well, it also shows Alabama with 14. It doesn't count the 1934 title. Evidently it wasn't considered a legitimate observance of a national title. I'm cool with that.

In any event, I haven't seen an Alabama fan in this thread claiming any bogus titles. In fact, you're the only UT fan in this thread, that I have noticed anyway, claiming bogus titles.

So you can't discuss a point, evidently, without personal attacks. That is generally the mark of an ignorant man.

ncaa.com/legitimate national titles
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9761 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:56 pm to
Claim em all Walt, don't listen to the haters

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:02 pm to
Interesting, LSU has TWICE as many national titles as Tennessee.

And the first title for a southern team.

Apparently the Tigers go WAY back.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

You know that same ncaa.com website I have linked for you several times, that shows UT with only 2 legitimate claims to a national title? Well, it also shows Alabama with 14. It doesn't count the 1934 title. Evidently it wasn't considered a legitimate observance of a national title. I'm cool with that.

In any event, I haven't seen an Alabama fan in this thread claiming any bogus titles. In fact, you're the only UT fan in this thread, that I have noticed anyway, claiming bogus titles.

So you can't discuss a point, evidently, without personal attacks. That is generally the mark of an ignorant man.

Vol fans don't like that link at all.
Posted by ATCKyle87
Eglin AFB
Member since Sep 2016
227 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:08 pm to
What facility do you work at so I can try to get there just to piss you off lol.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30829 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:16 pm to
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Like you'd even get an invite to participate in such an event


I know it's amazing. Neither team has been relevant for a over a decade now. Sorry, had to poke at ya.

Posted by ATCKyle87
Eglin AFB
Member since Sep 2016
227 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 4:02 pm to
Sounds like you are wrong there. Give you a hint I've PCS'd 3 times and 3 deployments and at a rank I could retire at.
Posted by ATCKyle87
Eglin AFB
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 4:02 pm to
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