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re: Did "SEC-style Football" Die Last Weekend?

Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Alabama is not dead. Pro-style (or "SEC-style" -- same thing?) football is not dead.


Maybe not at Bama or LSU, but all the lessor teams aren't going to try to out Bama Bama with worse talent anymore. The days of the SEC all having a similar style, or days when an Arky or MSU could pretend to be successful with SEC style football, are done for.

The whole point of the spread and the hunh is to mitigate talent advantages through scheme and conditioning. A program like Arky is simply dumb to ever try the cloud of dust style ever again. Bert was always a mistake even if he beats A&M this week. The Arkies and MSUs of the world should try every trick in the book to gain an advantage.

So what does that mean for Bama or LSU? It means unlike in the past preparing for your best opponent won't prepare you for the rest. That yearly you might face teams that mitigate your talent via scheme, and therefore you have less stability in the win loss record.

The SEC style football is favored by certain fans for a reason IMHO- it keeps football a caste system where the team with more talent wins 90% of the time. Now that is shattered it means more losses for the SEC elite IMHO, which in modern football means less prestige for the SEC overall.

It effects us all.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 6:52 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Sample size of 2 seasons too small from which to draw valid, meaningful conclusions...


False. It is more than two seasons.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Maybe not at Bama or LSU, but all the lessor teams aren't going to try to out Bama Bama with worse talent anymore. The days of the SEC all having a similar style, or days when an Arky or MSU could pretend to be successful with SEC style football, are done for.

The whole point of the spread and the hunh is to mitigate talent advantages through scheme and conditioning. A program like Arky is simply dumb to ever try the could of dust style ever again. Bert was always a mistake even if he beats A&M this week. The Arkies and MSUs of the world should try every trick in the book to gain an advantage.

So what does that mean for Bama or LSU? It means unlike in the past preparing for your best opponent won't prepare you for the rest. That yearly you might face teams that mitigate your talent via scheme, and therefore you have less stability in the win loss record.

The SEC style football is favored by certain fans for a reason IMHO- it keeps football a caste system where the team with more talent wins 90% of the time. Now that is shattered it means more losses for the SEC elite IMHO, which in modern football means less prestige for the SEC overall.

It effects us all.


This is correct. This has been a change for a few years now and isn't even close to it's peak either.

It is a contrast of styles and Ole Miss has surpassed Bama in the execution of their style as they got better recruits.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Bama doesn't really beat the crap out of LSU


That is what they are built to do.

If LSU brought their offense into the 21st century and dominate Bama on the edges, LSU wouldn't have a losing streak going against them like they do right now.

IMO, LSU has the right defense, but not the right offense.
Posted by El Eh Shu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
923 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:10 pm to
quote:



If you didn't notice OP is like most Rant posts in that it ignores the existence of the SEC East.


cardboardboxer forget to log in to your alter for this post?
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34429 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Old Sarge



quote:

LSU




Good to see things are running normal tonight...
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:55 pm to
I don't have an alter.

Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:00 pm to
Did you miss Buga, Destroyer of Souls, running all over auburn?
Posted by Rounder1
Member since Feb 2013
522 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:06 pm to
No. Some traditional powers sucked And u became a fricktard. Aside from that it is the same as its ever been.

Gtfo with stupid shite. U people and ur shitty insecure fricking threads are taxing the frick out of aging nerves.

Some advice from Les Grossman; "take a big step back and literally frick ur own face."

Or.... u could run off and look for a fricking gadget style of play that will be rendered impotent after a year. Go with that!!! Nobody has ever tried that shite before!

Please just fricking lurk.... this imbecilic shite being posted has me chewing my own fricking tongue!

U motherfricker have a common brain cell and if I could figure out how to separate u conjoined twin motherfrickers the kinetic output would probably destroy the fricking known universe.

If u love ur family... please shut the frick up! Ur killing them....us....everyone that reads this primary School horseshite.

I am sorry u lost at kickball today... it's tragic...seriously. u will bounce back. Ur douchebag uniform will still be hanging in ur closet....pressed... just like mom left it the day before... but for the love God go get fricked up on antifreeze tonight....or just step away from keyboard until u quit shitting ur pants.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61313 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:07 pm to
Aggy has successfully infected the SEC
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:12 pm to
Bama's 5 turnovers had nothing to do with "SEC style". It was bad luck. Plus Ole Miss isn't a run & shoot team. Plus, UGA is is a run-first SEC program with an elite RB....so thats 2.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

No. Some traditional powers sucked And u became a fricktard. Aside from that it is the same as its ever been.

Gtfo with stupid shite. U people and ur shitty insecure fricking threads are taxing the frick out of aging nerves.

Some advice from Les Grossman; "take a big step back and literally frick ur own face."

Or.... u could run off and look for a fricking gadget style of play that will be rendered impotent after a year. Go with that!!! Nobody has ever tried that shite before!

Please just fricking lurk.... this imbecilic shite being posted has me chewing my own fricking tongue!

U motherfricker have a common brain cell and if I could figure out how to separate u conjoined twin motherfrickers the kinetic output would probably destroy the fricking known universe.

If u love ur family... please shut the frick up! Ur killing them....us....everyone that reads this primary School horse shite.

I am sorry u lost at kickball today... it's tragic...seriously. u will bounce back. Ur douchebag uniform will still be hanging in ur closet....pressed... just like mom left it the day before... but for the love God go get fricked up on antifreeze tonight....or just step away from keyboard until u quit shitting ur pants.


Mother of....
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

No. Some traditional powers sucked And u became a fricktard. Aside from that it is the same as its ever been.

Gtfo with stupid shite. U people and ur shitty insecure fricking threads are taxing the frick out of aging nerves.

Some advice from Les Grossman; "take a big step back and literally frick ur own face."

Or.... u could run off and look for a fricking gadget style of play that will be rendered impotent after a year. Go with that!!! Nobody has ever tried that shite before!

Please just fricking lurk.... this imbecilic shite being posted has me chewing my own fricking tongue!

U motherfricker have a common brain cell and if I could figure out how to separate u conjoined twin motherfrickers the kinetic output would probably destroy the fricking known universe.

If u love ur family... please shut the frick up! Ur killing them....us....everyone that reads this primary School horseshite.

I am sorry u lost at kickball today... it's tragic...seriously. u will bounce back. Ur douchebag uniform will still be hanging in ur closet....pressed... just like mom left it the day before... but for the love God go get fricked up on antifreeze tonight....or just step away from keyboard until u quit shitting ur pants.


I was going to downvote you, but I would feel bad for doing something that might upset someone who is clearly short a few marbles.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:42 pm to
frick it. I upvoted that post. It is like a work of art.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58589 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:46 pm to
What in the hell happened here......
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41453 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

what brings it back?

quote:

rule changes
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62586 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:53 pm to
You ok buddy?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:56 pm to
I could see that, especially if certain styles of football are proven to cause significantly more medical problems.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 10:04 pm to
quote:


Gtfo with stupid shite. U people and ur shitty insecure fricking threads are taxing the frick out of aging nerves.

Some advice from Les Grossman; "take a big step back and literally frick ur own face."

Or.... u could run off and look for a fricking gadget style of play that will be rendered impotent after a year. Go with that!!! Nobody has ever tried that shite before!

Please just fricking lurk.... this imbecilic shite being posted has me chewing my own fricking tongue!

U motherfricker have a common brain cell and if I could figure out how to separate u conjoined twin motherfrickers the kinetic output would probably destroy the fricking known universe.

If u love ur family... please shut the frick up! Ur killing them....us....everyone that reads this primary School horseshite.

I am sorry u lost at kickball today... it's tragic...seriously. u will bounce back. Ur douchebag uniform will still be hanging in ur closet....pressed... just like mom left it the day before... but for the love God go get fricked up on antifreeze tonight....or just step away from keyboard until u quit shitting ur pants.


My oh my....
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