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re: Death of College Athletics

Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Bengalbio
Tampa, FL
Member since Feb 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:18 pm to
deeprig9, I do wish there was a way to ensure the continuity of these other programs and their scholarship athletes, but I don't see a way given the rightful push towards all FBS schedules.

I suspect some of us on here are sympathetic, perhaps because they played football below the top tier.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:21 pm to
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Lord son, it ain’tthat bad. College Football and basketball is a cash cow. Funds all the womens sports and the like. Don’t let the punt break you. UGA’s time is coming.



He's not wrong. Football is an enormous drain on the majority of FBS schools. It's profitable for all of us but it's not at all profitable for the majority of schools that fund it.

Basketball is different. It's cheap and even the smallest school can become competitive come tourney time. That's not happening and likely won't ever happen in football.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:21 pm to
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Lord son, it ain’tthat bad. College Football and basketball is a cash cow. Funds all the womens sports and the like.


True for about 40 or 50 colleges. The hundreds of others, not true. Not even the mens sports are profitable.


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Don’t let the punt break you.


I'm the rare UGA fan that likes the call. Chips fell where they fell.




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UGA’s time is coming.



Yep.





Posted by phlux
Member since Jan 2008
546 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:27 pm to
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What I'm saying is you could have just downvoted and moved on. The fact you felt a need to reply with something so banal is concerning to me. You really are better than this.


Damn, you really take this stuff seriously, don’t you?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:28 pm to
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College football is now about the 40 or so programs that move the needle.


That's the way it's always been. The last program to win its first ever national championship in football was Florida all the way back in 1996.

Posted by Bengalbio
Tampa, FL
Member since Feb 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:33 pm to
Thirty years since a first time winner, I didn't know that it had been that long. Is basketball different?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:41 pm to
It's not D1 or even D2 but Arizona Western (which gave us two current players) decided to nix their JUCO football program. Apparently, all the JUCOs in AZ axed football and they lost their coach to another school. However, what really killed them was that they found themselves with no one left in the state to schedule. The conference they were in now only has two schools left.

Big schools can afford to fund sports and will continue to do so whether or not they make a profit -- college athletics are an important part of the college experience. However, smaller schools with smaller budgets (many of which are struggling financially in general) are going to cut programs and football is often first on the chopping block because it's so expensive.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:20 am to
I'll play along and give you some credit. It may not be as bad as you say, but there is a measure of truth to it.

IMO, there shouldn't be 128 FBS teams. Everyone thinks they can play with the big boys. There are probably 40 teams that have only joined the FBS in the last 20 years. Some of those didn't play football at all 10 years ago. For many, perhaps the smart money decision would have been to stay in the FCS.
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:37 am to
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I expect more from KY fans. You are better than this.


Especially concerning football lol
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:46 am to
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One fake punt for Georgia; death of college athletics for Georgia fans.




Georgia didn't los because of the fake punt.

They had already lost. The game was over when Georgia missed the field goal.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:59 am to
Why i watch other sports to hedge my feelings
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:05 am to
I think Georgia fans are going straight up urban Meyer on us right before your eyes
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23882 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:12 am to
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There are 128 FBS teams.

Only about 50 of them are profitable. .

That percentage of profitability is probably higher than it was 40-50 years ago, tbh.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37585 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:59 am to
That 4th and 11 call would make me quit too.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:01 am to
Here come the low IQ responses. The guy makes a good point and all you can do is make inner city school level responses
Posted by Mojave1864
Vegoose
Member since Oct 2018
114 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:15 am to
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Here come the low IQ responses


This is an SEC message board, mkay? Our conference’s schools are not threatened by the issues outlined in the OP. Why then, pray tell, should we give a single frick about said issues? Thread is as useless as tits on a boar.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:17 am to
Football is on a slow march to death, or a quick one depending on how you see it.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17716 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:17 am to
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The old traditions will still continue at the big football schools, the ones still raking in money. But the schools that used to rake in money, but aren't now, never will again.


The coming age of PPV everything will hurry this along.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:20 am to
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Our conference’s schools are not threatened by the issues outlined in the OP.


SEC football is threatened by the significant drop in youth and high school football across this country. Football in general is threatened.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:22 am to
Everything is cyclical. There is a downward trend now but things can be turned around. A lot of this has to do with universities having milked every dollar out of football programs with every old tradition and every bit of fan experience for sale to the highest bidder.

The BCS started sapping the lifeblood out of CFB by really gutting the meaning of bowl games and the regular season. If you were a NC contender, you werent guaranteed a chance at a 1v2 matchup in a bowl so you had to put together a NC caliber schedule. The BCS and now the playoff have caused teams to schedule rent-a-wins instead of quality OOC teams. A superior model to the BCS would have been to pick the two teams AFTER the bowls are played. Now many bowl games matter.

Thats gone though, playoff is here which isnt a terrible thing. Gotta let go of the bowls though and expand the playoff to 8 or 16. Play some of the games in bowl game settings if you must but you cant have a playoff and meaningful bowl games. We wont ever have meaningful bowl games ever again.

I used to be anti-playoff but now id absolutely love to see a 16 team playoff with first two rounds played on campuses. It would provide so much excitement to CFB and would absolutely revitalize it.

Other things that should be done:
-Shorten season to 11 games
-All P5 conferences should agree to have their teams play 10 P5 games a season
-G5 should have a G5 championship. If one of more teams are good enough to make the big playoff, they can opt to go there instead.
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