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re: Danny Sheridan has the info
Posted on 8/14/11 at 11:55 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 8/14/11 at 11:55 pm to Jon Ham
I had the same opinion of him when I heard him. The only reason I make the argument is that the NCAA has never required its sources or informants, or whomever, to have integrity.
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Posted on 8/14/11 at 11:59 pm to Bellabama
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I think it's sort of stupid to argue someone's integrity before you know what the information is
Fair enough. I question his integrity simply because of how all this info came out. Unless someone at the NCAA wanted him to leak the info, why would he come out on the Finebaum show and spill the beans on an active investigation involving an "alleged witness"?
Then his reaction when he told listeners to put their money where their mouth was and bet him that he didn't have the info. Kind of an insecure reaction for such a well connected man?
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:09 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:02 am to Bellabama
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Well you should have told this to Joe Schad.
Joe Schad is as big a joke as PF when it comes to actual sports stories. He has already shown he doesn't like Auburn. ESPN had to "shorten their leash on him" for his ramblings about Auburn last time. He wouldn't post a story if DS came out and said he was lying to get Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:03 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:11 am to Rabern57
But it was still on ESPN. You gave an entire response of the reasons it wasn't credible based on the fact that it wasn't being picked up by a legitimate entity. But at the same time, the legitimate entities have been undermined by what has been deemed bad reporting.
You have to pick one story. It could be that he is using Finebaum to test the waters, or it could be he is full of shite. No question he's been shady about his information, and it could be a huge goose chase... but it's also incredibly idiotic to think that someone would risk the reputation he has as an oddsmaker all in an effort to "get" Auburn. Especially if there is nothing to back it up.
You have to pick one story. It could be that he is using Finebaum to test the waters, or it could be he is full of shite. No question he's been shady about his information, and it could be a huge goose chase... but it's also incredibly idiotic to think that someone would risk the reputation he has as an oddsmaker all in an effort to "get" Auburn. Especially if there is nothing to back it up.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:13 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:17 am to Bellabama
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but it's also incredibly idiotic to think that someone would risk the reputation he has as an oddsmaker all in an effort to "get" Auburn. Especially if there is nothing to back it up.
So it's idiotic of me to think Sheridan's an idiot?
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:24 am to Jon Ham
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So it's idiotic of me to think Sheridan's an idiot?
No. But it's idiotic to think he would knowingly ruin his career for no apparent reason other than to "get" Auburn. I think he was probably told something. Whether or not he can prove it is another ball of wax.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:25 am to Bellabama
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But it was still on ESPN. You gave an entire response of the reasons it wasn't credible based on the fact that it wasn't being picked up by a legitimate entity. But at the same time, the legitimate entities have been undermined by what has been deemed bad reporting.
You have to pick one story. It could be that he is using Finebaum to test the waters, or it could be he is full of shite. No question he's been shady about his information, and it could be a huge goose chase... but it's also incredibly idiotic to think that someone would risk the reputation he has as an oddsmaker all in an effort to "get" Auburn. Especially if there is nothing to back it up.
ESPN saying DS is saying he knows who the bagman is, is not them backing him. They are doing exactly what I said the media is doing. They are just saying what DS is claiming. They are not claiming they know who the bagman is or has been found. That is a big difference.
Also he can only break the story once and PF is not where anyone breaks big stories. If he could get someone big to pick up the story and let him claim whatever he wants then he would go where the money is. As for his reputation, I already explained that earlier in the thread. When nothing happens PF will say DS had the sources not him. DS will say the bagman didn't talk and say that he stated "if the bagman wouldn't talk nothing would come of the case". That covers both PF and DS and no one can prove they were lying. Because that DS's reputation would not be affected because no one but the NCAA would know he is lying.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:28 am to Bellabama
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but it's also incredibly idiotic to think that someone would risk the reputation he has as an oddsmaker all in an effort to "get" Auburn.
Please explain to us in what way his career as an oddmaker would be affected if nothing comes of the "alleged bagman"?
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Especially if there is nothing to back it up.
The "alleged" info is backed up by his word alone. We will never find out who his NCAA source is and unless he names the "alleged bagman", we are just supposed to believe the that the bagman decided not to come forward.
He has worded everything he has said so he has an out, and at the same time - invented a bagman
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:30 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:29 am to Rabern57
Sheridan better name a name this weak. I have a feeling he won't though. If he doesn't then he is a liar.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:30 am to Rabern57
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ESPN saying DS is saying he knows who the bagman is, is not them backing him. They are doing exactly what I said the media is doing. They are just saying what DS is claiming. They are not claiming they know who the bagman is or has been found. That is a big difference.
Also he can only break the story once and PF is not where anyone breaks big stories. If he could get someone big to pick up the story and let him claim whatever he wants then he would go where the money is. As for his reputation, I already explained that earlier in the thread. When nothing happens PF will say DS had the sources not him. DS will say the bagman didn't talk and say that he stated "if the bagman wouldn't talk nothing would come of the case". That covers both PF and DS and no one can prove they were lying. Because that DS's reputation would not be affected because no one but the NCAA would know he is lying.
This entire argument is based on the premise that the NCAA doesn't think there was inappropriate negotiating surrounding Cam Newton. But we know, at the very least, this is not correct, because we know there is currently an investigation taking place.
Whether or not it amounts to anything is left to be seen, but I think it's entirely plausible that someone in the NCAA has said to someone, "we think there was another party involved, but we don't know if we can prove it." See Reggie Bush.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:31 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:33 am to mckibaj
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Sheridan better name a name this weak. I have a feeling he won't though. If he doesn't then he is a liar.
That doesn't make him a liar. It just makes him a weasel.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:33 am to Bellabama
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This entire argument is based on the premise that the NCAA doesn't think there was inappropriate negotiating surrounding Cam Newton. But we know, at the very least, this is not correct, because we know there is currently an investigation taking place.
What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with what the NCAA believes. This is about DS running around claiming crap and dancing around his words.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:34 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:34 am to Rabern57
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What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with what the NCAA believes. This about DS running around claiming crap and dancing around his words.
He has said his source is in the NCAA. So his entire story is based upon what the NCAA believes.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:36 am to Bellabama
This whole thread is full of
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:37 am to Rabern57
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What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with what the NCAA believes. This is about DS running around claiming crap and dancing around his words.
Every time I come in this thread I find you posting about how Sheridan is dancing around his words. What are you going to say if Sheridan actually follows through in naming a bag man this week?
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:42 am to Stanky Legg
Stanky! You just busted all of my fun...
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:43 am to Bellabama
That's not all I busted today... 
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:44 am to crimson crazy
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He has said his source is in the NCAA. So his entire story is based upon what the NCAA believes.
He said his source is someone he knows, that knows someone in the NCAA. His whole story is based on what he says he knows.
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Every time I come in this thread I find you posting about how Sheridan is dancing around his words. What are you going to say if Sheridan actually follows through in naming a bag man this week?
You seem to be the only one that doesn't believe he is dancing around his words. I'll watch his story get picked apart. But it ain't happening. What are you going to do when he doesn't name one? Say his story is some how more creditable because he claimed on the radio he knows the name.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:48 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:47 am to crimson crazy
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Every time I come in this thread I find you posting about how Sheridan is dancing around his words. What are you going to say if Sheridan actually follows through in naming a bag man this week?
He's going to be surprised that lightning actually struck and Sheridan wasn't full of shite.
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