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re: Dabo Swinney: If Clemson fans aren't satisfied after USC win, it’s time for me to move on

Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:12 am to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:12 am to
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If alabama snubs him, which I expect them to do as long as he keeps these little temper tantrums up...








Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:14 am to
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To claim the Bama fans who wouldn’t choose Dabo is a small minority is bullshite. I’d say it’s split pretty close to 50/50.


I know a helluva lot of Bama fans. Every one thinks that Dabo should get the first offer.


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Thankfully, the people I know who actually have some sway...


Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:14 am to
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I seem to remember Venables being a pretty dang good DC at Oklahoma.
In fact, his OK teams finished above Muschamp's TX teams in scoring defense 2 of the three years they were in the B12 together (2008-2010). Venables' defense was 1 or 2 in the B12 9 of the 11 years he was there, and top 10 nationally 4 of those years.

We know your memory isn't what it used to be, so no charge for that history lesson. Enjoy the 21 pt beating moral victory, though.

Most importantly, this has never happened to Venables:



Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:15 am to
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BamaGradinTn

That last one with AJ is from the 2011 game in the Swamp. I was there as a student and he was doing the chomp in front of us after scoring.
Posted by Merck
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:22 am to
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I think the issue with Saban inevitably retiring is that there's no way he'll leave a cushy setup for a guy like Dabo. He'd die on the job before he'd let some other guy get the championships that he laid the foundation for. Saban is a human. He's petty and selfish like all of us. He is not from Alabama and he didn't build Alabama football. He will secretly want his successor to fail.


What the frick are you talking about?

I've seen it said many times when Saban left LSU he left behind detailed notebooks about every player's strengths and weaknesses and exactly what was needed for them to succeed. The way Saban left Les Miles set up was repeatedly mentioned on this site as one of the biggest reasons Miles averaged 11 wins his first 3 years at LSU and won the national championship in '07.

I'm pretty sure the man is going to leave Bama's next coach set up to compete for championships instantly.
Posted by Benjamin Ryan
Hodges
Member since Aug 2018
301 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:41 am to
Contrary to popular belief, Dabo Swinney is not Clemson Football. Our administration has a will to win at almost any cost. When Dabo is gone we will still be beating the hell out of the Shamecocks and the rest of our conference. Clemson's Board of Trustees will go out and get the next guy unlike USUC's who has to settle for whatever washout that is willing to go to Columbia.

I hate the nepostism I see among our coaching staff. It is a sure sign that things are getting too cushy for them. It is a bad look, and when things do start to eventually slide, will be one of the first things seized upon to skewer Dabo.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:43 am to
Dabo needs to call his old coach.
"The coaches who listen to the folks in the stands, will soon find themselves sitting with them." Gene Stallings
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:47 am to
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Every word of your comments about Dabo have been said by our rivals about Saban. Every. fricking. Word.


lol, I've never heard anyone say Saban had an underdog attitude. Crybaby? sure, every coach gets called that when they voice their minds about issues but Dabo takes it to another level and it gets talked about quite a lot. Other than that some think Saban's evil on top of it but I've heard that about no fewer than 10 different coaches over the years.

Living in Tennessee has apparently warped your brain. Is you're family tree a telephone pole too?

As far as coaches that are better and proven winners, why is that always important? There's plenty of coaches that dont do well in one place but fit better in others.

Also, as far as being serious minded and whether you care about me and my buddies go.... lol, you actually think that what you care about matters? Nothing you or I say will have even the slightest inkling of difference in who we get as coach after Saban leaves.

I dont want Dabo. I have a lot of customers that come in my business that agree. In cast you havent noticed this is a message board. That's the kind of thing we talk about here. At least the ones that are stupid enough to think our opinion actually matters to anyone outside of our own heads anyway.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:48 am to
Dabo is the best program builder we have ever had. As long as he wants to be a Clemson Tiger, we would be foolish to not give him the credit/praise he deserves.

Doesn't mean he isn't above criticism, but put it all in perspective.

Bigger programs like UT, UF, Southern Cal and Texas would pay a Kings ransom to have a coach and track record like Dabo.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:51 am to
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I've seen it said many times when Saban left LSU he left behind detailed notebooks about every player's strengths and weaknesses and exactly what was needed for them to succeed.


Didn't he have a recommendation for the next HC?

Whoever follows Saban will be set up.

The problem is there is no way the next coach will be able to equal what Saban has achieved. For the last ten years, it was a good bet that Alabama would be in the championship game.

But like someone else said, it won't be clear how much below Saban they are until year three.





We shall see next year.


I hope.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:51 am to
It's funny because all those pictures you posted were of Saban getting pissed off during games. To think that you actually believe they are related proves even more how intellectually inadequate you are.

It don't matter which team you pull for, Tennessee always gonna Tennessee. Enjoy that telephone pole family tree.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23940 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:11 am to
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Dabo needs to call his old coach.
"The coaches who listen to the folks in the stands, will soon find themselves sitting with them." Gene Stallings


Best post in this thread so far.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19450 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:24 am to
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Contrary to popular belief, Dabo Swinney is not Clemson Football. Our administration has a will to win at almost any cost.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have the same Administration in place that you had when USCe beat you 5 times in a row. No?
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21871 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:27 am to
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Contrary to popular belief, Dabo Swinney is not Clemson Football.


They are in for a world of pain after he’s gone
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23940 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:14 pm to
Clemson Sins Too

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To be perfectly clear, Dabo was trying to run up the score on South Carolina.

I am not entirely sure why Dabo did this. Like I said, I think Dabo is a good guy. But that was not right. I would like to think he wasn’t trying to embarrass a defense with a bunch of gassed, injured freshman. Instead, I think it is very possible that Dabo himself was embarrassed. Coaches always act like they don’t listen to outside noise and that they don’t know things like the point spread or pregame predictions. But I would not be shocked if Dabo was looking up at that scoreboard, seeing that his vaunted Clemson defense gave up 35 points and 600 yards of offense to a team many predicted would be lucky to score ten points, and thought, “screw this, let’s get another score and win by 21.” I don’t know for sure. That’s my guess. But I think Dabo got caught up in his emotions a little bit. I think he was upset his defense played poorly and in the heat of the moment he decided to run up the score to make it look better.

I know that this is a rivalry, but Dabo displayed poor sportsmanship. I think this stuck in my crawl because it came from a coach and a program and a school that hold themselves to a “higher standard.” I didn’t even go to South Carolina, but listening to Clemson fans continually beatdown the Gamecock fan base for being classless or hicks or rude, is tough to stomach after seeing a Clemson fan flipping Keil Pollard the middle finger as he runs by the student section, or watching a Clemson fan move into the South Carolina section of the stadium, stand next to me, and trash South Carolina players in front of their parents, or witnessing Dabo run up the score, or observing their students rush the field before the game was over.
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1185 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Lord Taters, yall phukkin up.


Nah they have high standards. Why would they want a coach who gives up 500 passing yards to USC? I think Auburn needs to make some moves.
Posted by Jim Sweet
Easley
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:44 pm to
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I think this stuck in my crawl


Yikes.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:49 pm to
So you quote a story written by a current USCe student and post it like it's a front page article from the NY Times?
And feel the need to point out that he didn't like that arse beating Dabo gave his school? Imagine that.

About - Chris Paschal
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7505 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:37 pm to
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Bama fans would lose their minds with Dabo as their head coach post-Saban. As soon as he would have offers out to coaches' son's that are not worthy of a P5 offer and he loses that WTF game, they would be crucifying him and he would be longing for the good ole days at Clemson.

Dabo on one hand says "Best is the standard" and then out of the other side of his mouth says "1 point win is all we need!"... Which is it?

Bottom line is Dabo and Venables got outcoached by South Carolinas's staff. Clemson was clearly superior at nearly every position and still made a game of it. The past couple years has shown that if teams come up with new/unique formations they haven't shown on film, and run the hurry up out of it, Venables can leave our defense in a compromised position waiting for the call, and our Safety's this year are not exceptionally talented and prone to busts. A&M and Syracuse, as well as USC, all used that blueprint successfully against Clemson.

It's why I think Bama will beat us worse than last year if we play them again. Our 2016 team was built to beat that Bama team, despite the fact that was one of the best defenses of the past 20 years in CFB... We were built on stopping the run, and had the ultimate playmaker in Watson. If we play them this year I think it's a 48-21 type of game in favor of Bama.



Turn in your gear....Your're off the team!

Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7505 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:58 pm to
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Contrary to popular belief, Dabo Swinney is not Clemson Football. Our administration has a will to win at almost any cost. When Dabo is gone we will still be beating the hell out of the Shamecocks and the rest of our conference. Clemson's Board of Trustees will go out and get the next guy unlike USUC's who has to settle for whatever washout that is willing to go to Columbia.

I hate the nepostism I see among our coaching staff. It is a sure sign that things are getting too cushy for them. It is a bad look, and when things do start to eventually slide, will be one of the first things seized upon to skewer Dabo.


Your youth and inexperience are showing. Anyone not from the Dabo tree that includes people like Venables, Tony Elliot or Chad Morris would have a very hard time recreating what Clemson is currently.

People talk about Nick Saban and his "Process". With Dabo it is 100% "The Culture". Dabo is not only a great CEO type of coach but also a great salesman, politician and motivator which you don't get from many people. Some HC's are good X's and O's guys but suck as the social game. Some love to Schmooze the wales but can't recruit a decent player to save his arse.

FSU is committed to Football and they ended up with Boxcar Willie Taggart...Don't assume if Dabo leaves things will be hunky dory. Enjoy this ride for as long as it lasts.
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