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re: Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:39 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:39 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
Thats why aTm may get booted from AAU in the next 5 years
aTm has already been warned, and aTm has turned into a diploma mill
aTm has already been warned, and aTm has turned into a diploma mill
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:41 pm to lestertheghost
Do you just make up this stuff?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:52 pm to EKG
Just use google
aTm was warned in 2011, and again in 2014
Now that Powers is out as AAU President, you'll see by 2020
aTm was warned in 2011, and again in 2014
Now that Powers is out as AAU President, you'll see by 2020
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:00 pm to lestertheghost
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lestertheghost
Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools
Good points
Seems Texas has been able to stay around 50k since the 1980's, and aTm has probably doubled in enrollment since then, massive growth
I wonder why aTm was not able to get of top 10% rule?
Especially with Rick Perry Gov so long, and with dramatic enrollment increase the last 5-10 years?
Rick is/was part of the problem. He is the one with the vision to grow the attendance dramatically. He is generally not well liked by the academia types at A&M. Normally, I just laugh at academia types, but in this instance, I do agree with them. His view is basically that A&M should be a diploma mill.
A&M cannot get out of the rule due to politics in the state and the fact that only maybe 30% of our physical campus is occupied. It is the old "You have plenty of room to grow, so grow" mentality. Our friends in Austin aren't going to help us in that regard either as it backlashes back on them.
Best way for A&M to slow it down is to promote Tech/Houston and let them take some of the load.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:04 pm to lestertheghost
AAU only has to do with research and with regards to research A&M is very highly regarded
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:06 pm to lestertheghost
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lestertheghost
Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools
Just use google
aTm was warned in 2011, and again in 2014
Now that Powers is out as AAU President, you'll see by 2020
Ironically the "warning" letters came from Berdahl over at the AAU who is a former President of Texas-Austin.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:10 pm to cjohn
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maybe 30% of our physical campus is occupied
This strikes me as crazy. It's a huge campus already.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:03 pm to wmr
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wmr
Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools
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maybe 30% of our physical campus is occupied
This strikes me as crazy. It's a huge campus already.
Just for reference if you have been there, the airport is on campus. 5500 acres (minus 200 granted for the research park) is over 8 square miles. Most of it is still just open land.
That is just the main campus. There is another large plot in Bryan that used to be an Army/Air Force station back in WWII that is fairly sizeable. A lot of the nuclear science study used to go on there but they are about to redo it for something else for the university.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:17 pm to cjohn
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Texas was able to wiggle out of the 10% rule due to the inability to grow their campus as it is in downtown Austin, so they do not see the same phenomenon.
That is simply not true, and you've already written this twice.
The University of Texas at Austin has received an exemption lowering top 10 percent high school auto admits to top 7 percent.
Plus (if I recall correctly), there is a percentage limit of freshman admits per class that can be top 7 percent because almost (if not all) of the incoming freshmen fell under the auto admit rule, leaving UT with no discretion on admitting those who qualified otherwise.
That's just the state legislature protecting the stature of Texas' highest esteemed public college.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:18 pm to cjohn
Wow. Our campus is a little over 400 acres total, surrounded by "town" on all sides. Similar setup to UT--densely built, but not nearly as vertical.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:21 pm to East Coast Band
Roll Tide, I reckon.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:24 pm to texashorn
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texashorn
Current enrollment numbers for SEC Schools
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Texas was able to wiggle out of the 10% rule due to the inability to grow their campus as it is in downtown Austin, so they do not see the same phenomenon.
That is simply not true, and you've already written this twice.
The University of Texas at Austin has received an exemption lowering top 10 percent high school auto admits to top 7 percent.
Plus (if I recall correctly), there is a percentage limit of freshman admits per class that can be top 7 percent because almost (if not all) of the incoming freshmen fell under the auto admit rule, leaving UT with no discretion on admitting those who qualified otherwise.
That's just the state legislature protecting the stature of Texas' highest esteemed public college.
You say tom-ay-to and I say tom-ah-to. At the end of the day, it is two viewpoints of the same thing. Either way, Texas has managed to wiggle out of the state law that passed for all state schools.
With the land situation that Texas-Austin has, it is understandable. However, A&M suffers statistically on admissions because we are forced to automatically accept nearly 50% more students than Texas.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:29 pm to cjohn
Can y'all take the Texas pissing contest to the Aggie board? The rest of us don't care about Austin.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:31 pm to TOFTR
Shouldn't you be at the Grove or something?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:36 pm to cjohn
UT Austin is more difficult to be admitted to, for sure. The standards are higher.
Your particular institution has wholly embraced its diploma mill status. Aggie administrators could likely get a similar exemption, but they have chosen not to.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Your particular institution has wholly embraced its diploma mill status. Aggie administrators could likely get a similar exemption, but they have chosen not to.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:40 pm to lestertheghost
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aTm has already been warned, and aTm has turned into a diploma mill
They're probably just like every non top 50 school in the states (public and private). They've got a handful of degrees that are cake, another handful that you have to work, and another handful that are a nightmare (I know, 3 hands......). I graduated from the University of South Alabama and the Med School, PT school, and CIS school were really tough and competitive. I got a computer engineering degree and my EE classes were a lot easier than my CIS classes.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:10 pm to TideJoe
Once again just replying to the last post but someone asked about whole population numbers.
The top Four States as of June 2016 are:
1. California: 38,332,521
2. Texas: 26,956,958
3. New York: 19,651,127*
4. Florida: 19,552,860
*New York City alone accounts for 8,406,815 people in that State--I think we all know the importance of that city however.
I don't know much about Texas, but with a population that large, I think you really need to get rid of that 10% rule.
There is no possible way that either one of those two institutions could possibly handle those numbers alone no matter how good you are.
You are going to have to spread the wealth eventually or either just start taking over every University in your State in a fight between you two.
I don't think that this will be a good thing from an academic standpoint.
Like I said earlier in this thread, bigger is very rarely better in my opinion, but I don't think that you guys have much of a choice right now.
It will be interesting to see in the future. Hope you guys make the right decisions for your kids in your State.
The top Four States as of June 2016 are:
1. California: 38,332,521
2. Texas: 26,956,958
3. New York: 19,651,127*
4. Florida: 19,552,860
*New York City alone accounts for 8,406,815 people in that State--I think we all know the importance of that city however.
I don't know much about Texas, but with a population that large, I think you really need to get rid of that 10% rule.
There is no possible way that either one of those two institutions could possibly handle those numbers alone no matter how good you are.
You are going to have to spread the wealth eventually or either just start taking over every University in your State in a fight between you two.
I don't think that this will be a good thing from an academic standpoint.
Like I said earlier in this thread, bigger is very rarely better in my opinion, but I don't think that you guys have much of a choice right now.
It will be interesting to see in the future. Hope you guys make the right decisions for your kids in your State.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:29 pm to Mister Tee
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I don't know much about Texas, but with a population that large, I think you really need to get rid of that 10% rule.
A little context for you.
The top-10 percent rule stemmed from a 1996 Fifth Circuit decision, based on a lawsuit at the University of Texas at Austin, to outlaw affirmative action.
Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi public schools were then forbidden from using the practice.
Texas black lawmakers were very worried about minority kids being left out, and proposed the top-10 percent rule to make up for no affirmative action. It passed.
Later, the U.S. Supreme Court essentially overruled that Fifth Circuit decision, and affirmative action was back in play.
The Republican-controlled Texas Legislature doesn't have the guts to totally rescind the top-10 percent rule because it would infuriate minority lawmakers.
More proof of A&M embracing their diploma-mill, open admissions status. The aggie president threw the University of Texas under the bus. Aggy has fully embraced academic mediocrity in favor of more state funding (even though it didn't work out like that, they fell behind on per-student funding this year, to the shock of the aggy chancellor). It kind of blew up in their face (so far).
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In the past few years, UT-Austin officials have railed against the policy, saying it overwhelms them with automatically admitted students and restricts the Austin university’s ability to build its study body to its liking. A&M has always received fewer automatic admittees, but the number is growing. School officials say they are fine with that.
“If you are really critical of the 10 Percent Rule, what you are saying is that we don’t want the kids from the [less competitive schools],” said A&M President Michael Young.
Fighting the rule, Young said, sends the message to those schools that “we would prefer to have an admissions process that doesn’t require us to admit you.”
That's low-brow shite from aggy. I wouldn't expect anything else.
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:17 pm to texashorn
Why are you such a whiney bitch?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:18 pm to Farmer1906
Should this question even be asked
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