Started By
Message
re: Cris Carter "How did Les Miles not win every game?"
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:08 pm to Tornado Alley
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:08 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
This is a true statement. Chris Faulk, Michael Ford, and Freak Johnson come to mind.
Faulk and Freak definitely should not have gone, I completely understand a RB declaring. Especially Ford who would have gotten even less carries the following year. Faulk and Ford were both on the offensive side though.
1
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:09 pm to memphisplaya
quote:
Ok. That has what to do with LSU ?
I don't know, you brought it up.
Probably in hopes to deflect from LSU losing to a superior team in their back yard in a game that wasn't close.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:10 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
Do you not read? I said the offense was extremely talented, on an individual level. However, taken as a whole, they are merely above-average.
Because you are comparing them to teams who ran up-tempo offenses or teams or threw the ball at a much much higher rate. Yes, those teams wil llikely have more yards and sometimes points, but that doesnt mean that helped their team by leaving their defense out to dry.
Miles could have had Mett throw it 500 times that year for 5000 yards and OBJr and Landry have 2000 yard seasons each, we might have even scored a little more...but our defense would have just been that much worse.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:11 pm to thunderbird1100
LSU certainly has had no shortage of RB talent as of late.
Alfred Blue
Buga
Michael Ford
Jeremy Hill
Kenny Hilliard
Terrence Magee
Stevan Ridley
Charles Scott
Spencer Ware
Keiland Williams
Alfred Blue
Buga
Michael Ford
Jeremy Hill
Kenny Hilliard
Terrence Magee
Stevan Ridley
Charles Scott
Spencer Ware
Keiland Williams
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:12 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
our defense would have just been that much worse.
If you have a DC who Kevin Sumlin thinks is worthy of a job offer, you will never have a defense that could be "much worse".
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:12 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
Because you are comparing them to teams who ran up-tempo offenses or teams or threw the ball at a much much higher rate. Yes, those teams wil llikely have more yards and sometimes points, but that doesnt mean that helped their team by leaving their defense out to dry.
What about Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina? Hell, Vanderbilt averaged 26 points per game in conference games in 2013.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:18 pm to DaleDenton
quote:
So Les isn't responsible for developing and recruiting depth?
Sure, but that's a different discussion
quote:
Its CFB, everyone has players leave they have to replace every year.
Nobody has been losing juniors at the rate LSU has the last few years, that's not even remotely disputable
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:19 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
What about Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina? Hell, Vanderbilt averaged 26 points per game in conference games in 2013.
You're having a hard time grasping 3000 yard passer, 1400 yard rusher and 2 1000 yard receivers = NEVER been done but once before in SEC history. We could have had that offense do whatever we want, but the fact is the defense wasn't good and we didn't want to leave them out to dry and look even worse by throwing it 50 times a game or trying to run 90 plays a game.
That defense gave up 435+ yards in half our SEC games, and that was trying to protect them with a ball control offense.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Nobody has been losing juniors at the rate LSU has the last few years, that's not even remotely disputable
And that makes developing and recruiting depth that much more important.
Saban hasn't struggled replacing key players on both sides of the ball year in and out.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:20 pm to GeorgeReymond
Where did the lsu defense rank in 2013? You really dont think you should have won a championship?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:20 pm to DaleDenton
Dale is so happy to finally get the attention he so desperately sought the first 4 pages of this thread.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:24 pm to CrimsonChin
quote:
Where did the lsu defense rank in 2013? You really dont think you should have won a championship?
The defense gave up 41, 38 and 27 points (500+ yards in this game) in our losses, no, we shouldn't have won a championship, the defense was bad.
D.J. Welter was our starting MLB, and you all saw this year how big of a difference just that 1 guy makes when we went from him (couldn't stop MSU or Auburn) to Beckwith - defense completely changed.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:24 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
You're having a hard time grasping 3000 yard passer, 1400 yard rusher and 2 1000 yard receivers = NEVER been done but once before in SEC history.
You seem to be having an issue grasping at the assertion I made pages ago and have continued to make: the individual talent on that unit was great, but as a whole, they were merely above-average.
If the offense was so great, they could have protected the defense by either scoring more points or racking up more yardage, but they did neither.
See the forest for the trees, son.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:25 pm to NFLSU
quote:Sorry I took the real name brah.
It's tough being NFLSU
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:26 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
You seem to be having an issue grasping at the assertion I made pages ago and have continued to make: the individual talent on that unit was great, but as a whole, they were merely above-average.
And you're being an idiot and comparing them to teams who run up tempo, throw the ball a lot more or played easier schedules.
The goal of the offense was NOT to leave the defense out to dry, how many times do I have to repeat myself? The defense was ALREADY struggling, it wasn't going to help if we sped things up to make us look better in the stats department while the defense will just be even worse.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:27 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
The defense gave up 41, 38 and 27 points (500+ yards in this game) in our losses, no, we shouldn't have won a championship, the defense was bad.
Spin, spin, spin, spin, spin.
The 2013 LSU defense was easily a top half unit - 4th in scoring defense and 3rd in total yards allowed.
Bottomline is this, as a unit and for the fifteenth god damn time, your offense was no more than an above-average unit and contributed to your losses as well.
Save the "3000 yard passer, 1400 yard rusher, 2 1000 yard receivers" spin. They were great individually but couldn't get the job done, which again hearkens to my original statement - Les Miles is not a very good football coach and is a great recruiter.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:28 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
2011 Morris Claiborne CB 1st (6) Dallas Cowboys
Claim him if you want...
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:28 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
LSU certainly has had no shortage of RB talent as of late.
Alfred Blue
Buga
Michael Ford
Jeremy Hill
Kenny Hilliard
Terrence Magee
Stevan Ridley
Charles Scott
Spencer Ware
Keiland Williams
All the more reason to wonder why such mediocre performance. Bama has had great backs under Saban obviously and has a lot more success. I dislike Cris Carter just as much as the next guy and I agree with the poster that said Cris obviously has an axe to grind with Les. As a Bama fan though I love having him at lsu and there is a clear deficiency with his recruiting, if it was really "NFLSU" Bama would also be in just as bad of shape in my opinion. Les is actually not that bad of an in game coach I don't believe.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:29 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
The goal of the offense was NOT to leave the defense out to dry
K
If they were that good, they could have kept scoring and racking up yards, amirite?
Lolz. Dumbass.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:31 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:
he 2013 LSU defense was easily a top half unit - 4th in scoring defense and 3rd in total yards allowed.
LMAO, I dont give two shits. It was awful, they have up a ton of yards and points in our 3 losses. That's all that matters, individual games. You're not going to win games when you're giving up 40 in a couple of them.
Page 5 of 12
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News