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re: Criminal charges aside, does he face any actions from school?

Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:52 am to
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:52 am to
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Is it because he’s retarded with a room temp IQ?

Common sense should be considered a super power.


Maybe he does.. is that a crime?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22455 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:53 am to
Are students legally allowed to have guns on their dorms?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52854 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:53 am to
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Let us know when in America the burden of proof of proving intent shifts to the accused and not the prosecution.





I'm not speaking to "burden of proof."

I'm speaking to the Alabama fans who are trying to speak in absolutes as to what Miller knew when they have absolutely no idea what he knew.
Posted by 8nojoke
Jackson, Ala
Member since Feb 2017
45 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:53 am to
As all opposing fan bases hope, I don't think it will have any effect on the a$$whippings that are gonna happen during the rest of the regular season or SEC tournament. Now maybe during the NCAA tourny it would be felt but it's too late to stop Bama from winning the SEC.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:54 am to
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Are students legally allowed to have guns on their dorms?
Does Miller live in a dorm? Does the 2nd Amend stop at the doorway
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26976 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:54 am to
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The DA didn't know his intent either.





Again, proving intent is pretty much critical to what the DA has to do.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3270 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:54 am to
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Mcelroy said he’s embarrassed of how Oates has handled it . That’s the only one I’ve seen who is affiliated with bama even say anything


These communications depts / strategists get mocked sometimes as being irrelevant.... But when you have this situation and you have a coach (boss/leader) who is out of his/her element ( ie coaching) but feels the need "to lead" so they say something... These PR snafus get created.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:56 am to
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the DA basically screamed it when they didn't charge hum


The DA is an elected official in Tuscaloosa County. If this was an ordinary black man he would absolutely have been indicted by now.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52854 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:56 am to
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Again, proving intent is pretty much critical to what the DA has to do.


Exactly, which is why charges weren't filed.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:57 am to
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I'm speaking to the Alabama fans who are trying to speak in absolutes as to what Miller knew when they have absolutely no idea what he knew.


Since his testimony to police matched the video evidence and his phone text were examined.. its pretty safe to conclude that the Tuscaloosa PD and DA have determined what he knew.. and they didn't charge him
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22455 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:57 am to
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Are students legally allowed to have guns on their dorms? Does Miller live in a dorm? Does the 2nd Amend stop at the doorway


Maybe he doesn’t. Most Freshman are required to live in dorms and firearms are prohibited..
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52854 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:59 am to
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Since his testimony to police matched the video evidence and his phone text were examined.. its pretty safe to conclude that the Tuscaloosa PD and DA have determined what he knew.. and they didn't charge him


You don't seem to understand the difference in what someone actually knew and what there was evidence of them knowing.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:00 pm to
Well in America.. the burden of proof is on the state. Unless of course you can read minds
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26976 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Let us know when in America the burden of proof of proving intent shifts to the accused and not the prosecution.




I'm not speaking to "burden of proof."

I'm speaking to the Alabama fans who are trying to speak in absolutes as to what Miller knew when they have absolutely no idea what he knew.


And I'm speaking of the basic fact that in order to arrest him for a crime, the DA has to be able to make a case for court.

I'm not addressing the idea of whether or not he should be with the team.

I'm addressing the fans of other teams who seem to think that he should be in jail because the second amendment ceases to be in force at 1:00 AM, or that a prosecutor can know a person's intent without any evidence.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52854 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:02 pm to
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Well in America.. the burden of proof is on the state. Unless of course you can read minds





Exactly, which is why he wasn't charged.

But people have also been jailed for much less.

And it's odd that folks like you keep insisting that he didn't know anything when no one really knows what he knew or suspected.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52854 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:04 pm to
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And I'm speaking of the basic fact that in order to arrest him for a crime, the DA has to be able to make a case for court.

I'm not addressing the idea of whether or not he should be with the team.



Why?

The name of this topic is literally:
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Criminal charges aside, does he face any actions from school?
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:07 pm to
The DA apparently doesn't think he knew anything or they would have charged him. They plainly said "theres nothing to charge him with".

Now if you want to run down the rabbit hole that its a conspiracy because he's a good player.. have at it!
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10264 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:08 pm to
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he didn't pull the trigger so he'll keep playing.


He didn't work in the factory that assembled the bullet, so he'll keep playing.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:09 pm to
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But people have also been jailed for much less.


Sure they have.. thats how innocent people end up on death row. So are you condoning bad behavior from the DA to prosecute minus substantial evidence?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:10 pm to
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I'm surprised they're so invested

It's OK. You're just not familiar with big-time college athletic programs with large numbers of fans.
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