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re: Crazy Stupid cops viciously attacked fans at Florida Georgia game

Posted on 11/4/24 at 6:32 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13229 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 6:32 am to
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Which it also why police have to be held to such a high standard. They have all of the power. When they abuse it they have to face severe criminal penalties. With the power comes the responsibility.



Unfortunately the number of people who subscribe to the "comply or die" concept allows the state to continually abuse the rights of citizens without any penalty. When the state violates the rights of one they have violated the rights of all. It should not tolerated, let alone encouraged through indifference, at best, and some twisted sense of schadenfreude, at worst. We can make it less likely to happen, supporting the concept of "comply or die" makes it far more likely to happen.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32156 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 7:00 am to
After thinking about this overnight, the SEC should hit Jacksonville where it hurts. Just move the game away from them. The game provides a significant economic impact to the city and if they police are going to treat fans like this, then it's time to move on.
Posted by BraggBlvd
Member since Sep 2024
504 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 7:22 am to
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We already could tell based on your posts. You're stupid too.

What a pathetic comment
Posted by MountaineerPatriot
Member since Aug 2024
134 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 7:28 am to
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After thinking about this overnight, the SEC should hit Jacksonville where it hurts. Just move the game away from them. The game provides a significant economic impact to the city and if they police are going to treat fans like this, then it's time to move on.


The game is arranged between Florida and Georgia. The SEC isn't involved, the agreement is between the two schools and Jacksonville. Similar to Arkansas and Texas A&M deciding to play in Dallas, the SEC has no say it that.

The only thing the SEC could do would be to not accommodate the game like they have (it's always around Halloween and always gets the guaranteed 3:30 slot) up until now. The SEC could say the game will no longer be protected in terms of the date and they could put the game on SEC Network at Noon, that way the city of Jacksonville doesn't get the exposure from the game that they want. But the SEC can't force the game away from Jacksonville.

But I still think UGA uses this as another way to get the game away from Jacksonville long term, either to a true home/home or to where it's held in Atlanta during years UGA is the home team.
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19915 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 7:35 am to
Show it from the beginning as to what started it off. Did the guys put their hands on the cops?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13229 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 7:43 am to
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Public outcry rights a lot of wrongs. The department will try to bury this, because that's what they always try to do. People making this public are doing the right thing.


The alternative is to simply accept it as a fact of life - the state can do anything it damn well pleases and the citizenry should shut the frick up and accept it.

It can happen to anyone. Anytime, anywhere, in any situation. It should, at least, not be tolerated as a simple fact of life.

We need to rid ourselves of the lie that being a policeman in the United States is dangerous. It simply is not. The stats do not support the idea. It is somewhere in the mid 20s behind almost all construction jobs. It simply is not dangerous.

It is HARD. That is worse than dangerous, especially when the danger is not significant yet perceived to be. Dealing with the public in a professional manner is damned difficult when the public is drunk, mad, or somehow out of their mind. It requires more than brute force and a fondness for violence. Brute force and a fondness for violence makes the job harder AND more dangerous than it would be otherwise. We should insist that policemen get the training they need, the emotional support the job requires, and that they behave in a manner which is above reproach. Supporting the concept of "comply or die" is a massive disservice to them...they have a hard if not dangerous job and one that is essential to order and civility. When they lower themselves to the level of our worst element they are damaging society far more than the lowest criminal because they are doing so in the name of the state and with the states support and massive power. It is a problem that will not be fixed with "comply or die".
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47644 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 7:49 am to
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If that were a black guy you would be posting FAFO and explaining why he got tased and his arse beat because he was belligerent, refused to listen and threatened the officers so he deserved it.


You'd be looting a Foot Locker, but you don't see a bunch of angry white people out looting Apple stores in retaliation for this incident.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3882 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 8:42 am to
If people would learn not to question a cop or make eye contact with a cop, these things wouldn’t happen. Cops heroism and dedication to service and being stalwarts for law and order commands respect from the citizenry. When you ask them a question, you are questioning their motives and judgement and there is no place for that in America. When you make eye contact, you are provoking them with disrespect. Below the chin is where you look at a cop, out of reverence and respect for the authority vested in them by the state. I am sure that the “fans” (aka criminals) crossed these lines and others and gave the cops no other choice but to punish their disrespectful behavior.
Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
3036 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:00 am to
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The second officer who wrestled the fan to the ground reportedly was involved in another incident earlier in the day in which he allegedly used his handcuffs as brass knuckles while punching another fan, however, it hasn't been confirmed if it was the same officer or not.


Police under investigation
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2087 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:00 am to
Good thing the fans weren't throwing water bottles.

Probably would have been shot on site.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9373 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:27 am to
My point is to only make a judgement from a video clip instead of knowing THE ENTIRE FACTS.
There’s no way to determine who really is at fault.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9373 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:34 am to
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LSU doesn’t get aTm in Atlanta.


While I’m against Jax, at least it’s geographically located.

Your statement is interesting.
Posted by Lou C Furr
Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2019
107 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:35 am to
There are no paper tickets. On phone.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9150 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:36 am to
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Kids should have held on to the tickets. Likely entitled, disrespectful jerks that you call kids.


huh? not holding on to tickets makes you entitled and disrespectful? Their parents held on to the tickets...its not uncommon..
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9373 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:40 am to
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Show it from the beginning as to what started it off. Did the guys put their hands on the cops?


Exactly!
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17277 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:41 am to
Has the black officer been fired and arrested yet?
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9150 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:41 am to
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I’m not saying the encounter was justified and that the cops were correct, but trying to confront some trigger happy cop doesn’t end well for most folks. Wouldn’t you rather go home to your kids vs being shot?


id rather it not get to that point because our police have common sense and quality training...its a football game. If they say the tickets are with the parents, then follow them to the parents and ask to see them. If they deny that request then you have an issue
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9373 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:43 am to
If you know you need tix to get to your seat, WHY weren’t the kids given them (in whatever form they were in)?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9373 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:44 am to
Arrested for what?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32156 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:48 am to
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If you know you need tix to get to your seat, WHY weren’t the kids given them (in whatever form they were in)?


Most likely there were on a phone and the kids didn't have a phone of their own.
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