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re: Confirmed, UConn hoops transfer Alex Oriakhi just signed w/ Mizzou over Kentucky
Posted on 4/13/12 at 9:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 4/13/12 at 9:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
Belle - oh I understand on the league depth of the SEC and as you may know, we are pretty well familiar with Mike Anderson teams and how they play at home.
At the same time, if we do go to Fayetteville next year (can someone explain to me how the hoops schedule is gonna work now? Divisions or no?) we will be bringing with us a backcourt in Phil Pressey and Mike Dixon that Mike Anderson actually recruited to Mizzou...so not only will they be prepared for the 40 Minutes of Hell style they will face, but they arguably will be able to play it as well or (OK I will say it) probably better than the Arkansas players will at that point (though I respect the hell outta B.J. Young).
Look I respect the league no question. But conversely I hope you realize too that Big 12 and before it Big Eight hoops were plenty solid year in and year out. That ku team you just beat for the NC (thank you by the way), we beat them once and led them by 19 on their court in the other game before falling by 1 in OT. Mizzou has been to more successive NCAA tourneys than either Bama or Arkie...so I feel confident. Not cocky, but confident, much more so than I do about our chances of ever competing in football put it that way.
At the same time, if we do go to Fayetteville next year (can someone explain to me how the hoops schedule is gonna work now? Divisions or no?) we will be bringing with us a backcourt in Phil Pressey and Mike Dixon that Mike Anderson actually recruited to Mizzou...so not only will they be prepared for the 40 Minutes of Hell style they will face, but they arguably will be able to play it as well or (OK I will say it) probably better than the Arkansas players will at that point (though I respect the hell outta B.J. Young).
Look I respect the league no question. But conversely I hope you realize too that Big 12 and before it Big Eight hoops were plenty solid year in and year out. That ku team you just beat for the NC (thank you by the way), we beat them once and led them by 19 on their court in the other game before falling by 1 in OT. Mizzou has been to more successive NCAA tourneys than either Bama or Arkie...so I feel confident. Not cocky, but confident, much more so than I do about our chances of ever competing in football put it that way.
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Posted on 4/13/12 at 9:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Playing on the road in the SEC doesn't get it's due credit and a couple teams like Bama and Arkansas may have something to say about that.
Belle, you're right. Us moving into the top 3 is not a given at all. We'll have to work for it, and prove ourselves. I think most Mizzou fans have a lot of respect for the SEC in every sport - nothing will be easy. Playing on the road isn't to be taken lightly no matter what conference you're in.
I'm looking forward to playing Kentucky next year, as well as every other team.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 9:51 pm to semotruman
Agreed.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 9:51 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Unfortunately we don't have the player harrassment prowess that Mizzou fans have and couldn't get his phone number instead
Well played!
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:00 pm to semotruman
So Mizzou fan, you don't think AO saw the writing on the wall with Anthony Bennett going to UK? So UK has 3 players in the top 10 coming in with Goodwin and Cauley.
Congrats and nice pick up.
Congrats and nice pick up.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:03 pm to Elleshoe
U MAD OUR TEAM SUCK BRAH?
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:04 pm to WildcatMike
Yes, he wanted playing time for sure. Being good friends with Phil Pressey was also a deciding factor.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:06 pm to URHatinIt
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Being good friends with Phil Pressey was also a deciding factor.
He and Flip should make some good highlight reels next year!
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:11 pm to URHatinIt
WildcatMike - I will repeat myself and again echo the poster above. Absolutely I think he saw the writing on the wall and yes PT was a factor for him be it at UK or anywhere else. But what my Mizzou cohort and I are saying that seems to be falling on deaf ears a bit is that it so happens that Oriakhi's best friend is the starting Mizzou point guard, Phil Pressey, and the fact they talk every day and love playing together means to me that *even if* Kentucky did *not* have Noel and Bennett or anyone else coming in and the low post was wide open at UK, it is *not* a given that Oriakhi automatically would have signed with you guys, because of the angle Mizzou had with his best friend at PG. That's all I'm saying. And I am trying to concede that it's pure blind luck that we do have his best buddy on our team and if we didn't have Pressey I don't think we'd be even close to UK in that recruiting race, but it so happened we did have him and I think that was gonna be the deciding factor here. The quotes by Oriakhi tend to back that up, but again, we will never know for sure since they are just words.
This post was edited on 4/13/12 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:28 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
By the way in terms of my league respect for the SEC, just to kinda get it out there that I'm not being naive or anything...I do get it about playing on the road in the SEC. But I think what most SEC hoops fans crave is getting back to a notch higher like my favorite SEC time period, the early to mid 1990s. I cannot tell you how much I loved watching SEC hoops then - and mind you this was as a Mizzou/Big Eight fan. But God the SEC was so fun then. I mean you had Pitino with Mashburn and the Unforgettables, going at it against Nolan Richardson and Todd Day and Oliver Miller and Lee Mayberry and 40 Minutes of Hell, going at it with Robert Horry and Latrell Spreewell at Bama, going at it with Billy McCaffrey at Vandy, goig at it with Shaquille O'Neal and Chris Jackson at LSU...I mean good lord, Tennessee had a future NBA All-Star in Alan Houston and couldn't even crack the top half of the league with him cuz the league was so good!
Me personally when I think SEC basketball, that's what I think of. The league the last few years has been a little bit topheavy and having programs like Bama, Arkansas and LSU not being national powers in these recent years has made it a little different. But my dream result entering this league would be for it to go back to like it was in those star studded days when I first started watching it in the 1990s, and have the SEC hoops really start to mirror SEC football as the end all be all. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but if you look at those early 1990s teams and names I listed above, to me that shows the league is fully capable. And I also humbly submit that Mizzou's presence can help the league get back to that level, too.
Me personally when I think SEC basketball, that's what I think of. The league the last few years has been a little bit topheavy and having programs like Bama, Arkansas and LSU not being national powers in these recent years has made it a little different. But my dream result entering this league would be for it to go back to like it was in those star studded days when I first started watching it in the 1990s, and have the SEC hoops really start to mirror SEC football as the end all be all. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but if you look at those early 1990s teams and names I listed above, to me that shows the league is fully capable. And I also humbly submit that Mizzou's presence can help the league get back to that level, too.
This post was edited on 4/13/12 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:33 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
It's not falling on deaf ears by any means. I'm sure that's why Mizzou got a visit to begin with. But your dismissal of his other visits to schools that would have been able to facilitate him depending on who stayed/went and his waiting until after a few major recruiting announcements would be considered just as blind IMO.
As said, it's just opinions. Nothing to get upset over. Personally I think the Noel commitment scared him off because of the limited minutes for him inside compared to what he was wanting. That's alright, because I understand why he'd want that. I'd rather see him at Mizzou than North Carolina on top of that.
As said, it's just opinions. Nothing to get upset over. Personally I think the Noel commitment scared him off because of the limited minutes for him inside compared to what he was wanting. That's alright, because I understand why he'd want that. I'd rather see him at Mizzou than North Carolina on top of that.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 10:59 pm to BluegrassBelle
You keep on mentioning his best friend already at Mizzou...well, one of his best friends and guy from his "highschool: just committed to UK.
Seems like the Mizzou faithful are taking the "grindin" route on here.
Congrats, but he saw the writing on the wall...no way was he going to watch a bunch of freshman take away minutes in his final season of play, he just went through that with Drummond...and he is going to get his to get in the draft.
Seems like the Mizzou faithful are taking the "grindin" route on here.
Congrats, but he saw the writing on the wall...no way was he going to watch a bunch of freshman take away minutes in his final season of play, he just went through that with Drummond...and he is going to get his to get in the draft.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 11:03 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Me personally when I think SEC basketball, that's what I think of. The league the last few years has been a little bit topheavy and having programs like Bama, Arkansas and LSU not being national powers in these recent years has made it a little different. But my dream result entering this league would be for it to go back to like it was in those star studded days when I first started watching it in the 1990s, and have the SEC hoops really start to mirror SEC football as the end all be all. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but if you look at those early 1990s teams and names I listed above, to me that shows the league is fully capable. And I also humbly submit that Mizzou's presence can help the league get back to that level, too.
What? Remind me when the last time Mizzou sniff the Final 4 and when LSU went to one...get back to me on that one.
Mizzou's prresence can help the league? First round loss as a 2 seed would do wonders
Posted on 4/13/12 at 11:14 pm to WildcatMike
WildcatMike - yeah, I figured someone would go there on NCAA tourney and if it's gonna be you, so be it.
Being a Mizzou fan is hard and a lot like a Cubs fan, there is always gonna be a statistical anomoly out there in the NCAA tourney with the one and done format that has been upset more than most. That is us. So if you think the smack you are running at me there is novel, keep in mind we've been dealing with kansas as an arch rival for the last 100 years so it's not. And I don't really care how much you belittle what we do in the regular season. 30-5 record including 4-1 agianst Elite Eight teams speaks for itself. You're saying none of that would have helped the SEC this year? Wouldn't have helped your strengtht of schedule or give your players another good road test as they got ready for the Dance? Really? And by the way Duke lost to 15 seed Lehigh this year - I guess Duke couldn't help the SEC either? Or could it just be that the Big Dance is always full of plenty of crazy upsets and that's why we as a nation love it so much?
If anything at UK I would think you'd see Mizzou as an ideal new addition - one that tends to compete quite well in the regular season and hence helps keep you sharp and hone your skills but one that has thus far not been one that would be likely to dethrone your yearly national title aspirations. But suit yourself, if playing against NIT hopefuls like last year's Auburn or Georgia or Ole Miss or South Carolina squads is in your eyes better competition for UK than Mizzou, then rock on with your bad self.
Being a Mizzou fan is hard and a lot like a Cubs fan, there is always gonna be a statistical anomoly out there in the NCAA tourney with the one and done format that has been upset more than most. That is us. So if you think the smack you are running at me there is novel, keep in mind we've been dealing with kansas as an arch rival for the last 100 years so it's not. And I don't really care how much you belittle what we do in the regular season. 30-5 record including 4-1 agianst Elite Eight teams speaks for itself. You're saying none of that would have helped the SEC this year? Wouldn't have helped your strengtht of schedule or give your players another good road test as they got ready for the Dance? Really? And by the way Duke lost to 15 seed Lehigh this year - I guess Duke couldn't help the SEC either? Or could it just be that the Big Dance is always full of plenty of crazy upsets and that's why we as a nation love it so much?
If anything at UK I would think you'd see Mizzou as an ideal new addition - one that tends to compete quite well in the regular season and hence helps keep you sharp and hone your skills but one that has thus far not been one that would be likely to dethrone your yearly national title aspirations. But suit yourself, if playing against NIT hopefuls like last year's Auburn or Georgia or Ole Miss or South Carolina squads is in your eyes better competition for UK than Mizzou, then rock on with your bad self.
This post was edited on 4/13/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 4/13/12 at 11:22 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Every fanbase has 'em. There's always gotta be someone who acts like a dick. Let it go. Most of the Kentucky posters have been cool so far, focus on those.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 11:26 pm to semotruman
semotruman - I hear ya. What can I say, I'm a veteran of defending our program from d*ck kansas fans for as long as I can remember, so I probably gravitate more toward defending us against the d*ck types than I should.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 11:40 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
quote:Don't blame you a bit, I'll defend us too. I just try not to let the trolls get under my skin.
Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
I can't imagine the UK fans being as bad as the terrorist jayhawks though.
Posted on 4/13/12 at 11:43 pm to semotruman
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I can't imagine the UK fans being as bad as the terrorist jayhawks though.
Posted on 4/14/12 at 12:09 am to volfan30
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I can't imagine the UK fans being as bad as the terrorist jayhawks though.
Go to a UK game at Rupp and come back and say that with a straight face
Posted on 4/14/12 at 1:07 am to semotruman
Semo, statements like that are why all mizzou fans on here love you. Plus I don't feel bad at all saying we should be no worse than 3rd in the league next year. I mean Florida lost beal and who else could really jump us in the league other than them?
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