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re: “Committee” CFP? 5 or only 4 SEC teams
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:03 am to TexasWranglers
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:03 am to TexasWranglers
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Yet note dame still found a way to lose.
To two teams ranked #7 and #12.
Texas 3 losses to Unr, #3 and #1.
The UNR loss is what gets you. Without that loss Texas is in even with the close games against Kentucky and MState.
Had ND lost to an UNR team they would be out, too.
That would have been equal to ND getting beaten by Stanford.
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They haven’t beaten anyone of note. That’s my point. The only top 15 teams they played they lost period. They had their shot to impress the committee and they lost.
They did beat two ranked teams. Lower ranked teams, but ranked. Look, I'll tell you like I have said all along...it isn't just about who you have beaten.....or just who you lost to. It is a combination of the two. Texas has some impressive wins...but a really, really bad loss. Had you beaten Florida you would have been in over ND.
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:12 am to makersmark1
This is the total problem with auto bids and only 12 slots. There should be 0 auto bids to anyone and that includes any conference champs or group of 5 welfare queens/section 8 housing bids and any committee member caught manipulating rankings to circumvent this immediately replaced. Legit top 12 teams only with a well defined criteria
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:30 am to DawgsLife
Nah, he's got that right. Bama is in with a BYU loss. The SECCG becomes a seeding thing
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:40 am to castorinho
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Nah, he's got that right. Bama is in with a BYU loss. The SECCG becomes a seeding thing
Yeah. When I made my original comment I had not considered that BYU was playing Texas Tech. Where Alabama gets into trouble is if BYU beats Texas Tech. Texas Tech probably would not drop out and BYU would be in as a conference champion.
See,s improbable that BYU would beat Texas tech, but Texas Tech has nothing to play for (essentially) while BYU has everything to play for. Either way, there should be some interesting games this weekend.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:46 am to DawgsLife
We are going to agree to disagree here as I think there is a big gap between playing the #1 and #3 vs #7 and #12. Those losses are not created equal.
Just like ND rnakes wins are not the same as UT rankes wins. Beating Navy and USC isnt the same as beating OU, ATM, and Vandy, can we agree?
Just like ND rnakes wins are not the same as UT rankes wins. Beating Navy and USC isnt the same as beating OU, ATM, and Vandy, can we agree?
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:56 am to Jake81
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If Bama and BYU both lose then who gets in? I think Bama still gets in
According to ESPN there is a 67% chance BYU loses and a 49% chance Bama does. Gut feels says this is a 35/65 event.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:05 am to TexasWranglers
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Beating Navy and USC isnt the same as beating OU, ATM, and Vandy, can we agree?
UT's problem is a lack of consistency and allowing 30 points per game over the last 5. Yes you have strong wins but you also have bad wins. Barely beating Miss State and UK in low scoring affairs is not a good look. Then UT let Vandy score 21 in the 4th. If that game lasted another 3 minutes its horns down.
UT 2025 is a psycho up, down, and all around team. Should inconsistency on this scale be rewarded ? Hell no. Wouldn't be to BYU, Ole Miss, TAMU, Tech, UI, etc. But yeah, maybe to Ohio State, ND, and 4 or 5 other media darlings.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:08 am to TexasWranglers
It's great that we beat 3 solid teams. Problem is, we were hard to watch much of the year. I get the case to be made for us but I don't think our overall body of work was all that compelling, unfortunately.
I don't think it's our 3 losses keeping us out. I think it's more that we looked like a bad football team a good portion of the season.
For our case, it's true we could have lost to Kentucky, but we also could have beaten #1 Ohio St on the road with average QB play.
I don't think it's our 3 losses keeping us out. I think it's more that we looked like a bad football team a good portion of the season.
For our case, it's true we could have lost to Kentucky, but we also could have beaten #1 Ohio St on the road with average QB play.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:11 am to castorinho
quote:This. If Texas Tech wins the Big XII, then the bubble for at large teams is 10 and Bama should be safely in win or lose (they don't like to drop teams for losing conference championship games, and BYU would have picked up a loss anyway).
Nah, he's got that right. Bama is in with a BYU loss. The SECCG becomes a seeding thing
If, however, BYU wins, that effectively moves the bubble for at large teams to 9, so, unless the committee moves Bama up to 9 this week, they could find themselves on the wrong side of the bubble. But, as long as Behren Morton stays healthy, I think Tech should take care of BYU and render this issue moot.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:13 am to twk
Yeah the committee almost always gets bailed out and doesn't really have to make decisions.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:14 am to castorinho
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Nah, he's got that right. Bama is in with a BYU loss.
It might get tricky if Bama gets blown out. That's unlikely given the circumstances but should Bama lose by 30 points or something then that would open the door for Miami.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:36 am to TexasWranglers
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We are going to agree to disagree here as I think there is a big gap between playing the #1 and #3 vs #7 and #12. Those losses are not created equal.
You are absolutely correct. They are not equal. And if those were Texas' only two losses you would be in. As I said before, it is the UNR loss to Florida that killed you.
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Just like ND rnakes wins are not the same as UT rankes wins. Beating Navy and USC isnt the same as beating OU, ATM, and Vandy, can we agree?
I do agree with this, but you can't look at wins and losses in a vacuum. They have to be looked at together. That third loss and it being to an unranked team that only won 4 games is what sunk Texas. You keep wanting to forget about the loss to Florida and compare everything else...the two wins and the two losses...but that third loss to an unranked team is what got you.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:46 am to DawgsLife
1) I appreciate your analysis and great data and insight.
2) I haven’t forgotten about the fl loss, it hurts the resume for sure. I just value quality wins way more than bad loss. I like the college basketball format personally as if we are wanting the best 12 teams showing you can beat multiple top 12 teams is indicative of that, not beating a few top 20 teams.
3) I said thought this when Texas moved to the sec, being forced to play in Columbus will hurt Texas and eliminated any mulligans they and other teams get when evaluating their resume.
Again, if Texas is 10-2 with swapping osu for playing and beating a 3-8 Va tech on the road (no guarantee but they would be 20+ point favorites) and still had the exact same resume are they in in your honest opinion? I think they are 100% in and that’s my main issue
2) I haven’t forgotten about the fl loss, it hurts the resume for sure. I just value quality wins way more than bad loss. I like the college basketball format personally as if we are wanting the best 12 teams showing you can beat multiple top 12 teams is indicative of that, not beating a few top 20 teams.
3) I said thought this when Texas moved to the sec, being forced to play in Columbus will hurt Texas and eliminated any mulligans they and other teams get when evaluating their resume.
Again, if Texas is 10-2 with swapping osu for playing and beating a 3-8 Va tech on the road (no guarantee but they would be 20+ point favorites) and still had the exact same resume are they in in your honest opinion? I think they are 100% in and that’s my main issue
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:47 am to Red_and_black
All fair points but how does byu, tech, IU, atm, ole miss etc fair with Texas schedule?
Don’t think any are better than 9-3 and most are 8-4 or below
Don’t think any are better than 9-3 and most are 8-4 or below
Posted on 12/2/25 at 11:14 am to TexasWranglers
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1) I appreciate your analysis and great data and insight.
Thank you, and i have nothing against Texas at all.
quote:I don't value them differently. It is a personal thing for me. I think bad losses are as hurtful as good wins are helpful. But that is me, and i understand that other people feel differently.
2) I haven’t forgotten about the fl loss, it hurts the resume for sure. I just value quality wins way more than bad loss. I like the college basketball format personally as if we are wanting the best 12 teams showing you can beat multiple top 12 teams is indicative of that, not beating a few top 20 teams.
quote:Maybe. It certainly didn't help, and it was a gutsy move by Texas to keep it on their schedule.
3) I said thought this when Texas moved to the sec, being forced to play in Columbus will hurt Texas and eliminated any mulligans they and other teams get when evaluating their resume.
quote:I do think thye would be in with your scenario. Ironic, huh? Or if Florida had won 2-3 more games it would have helped....I see what you are saying. And, honestly? The game with Georgia was closer than the score indicated. Texas was gaining the momentum, but the two 4th down conversions and onside kick just took the wind out of their sails. I think the two 4th down conversions were the key, but the onside kick was the final straw.
Again, if Texas is 10-2 with swapping osu for playing and beating a 3-8 Va tech on the road (no guarantee but they would be 20+ point favorites) and still had the exact same resume are they in in your honest opinion? I think they are 100% in and that’s my main issue
Posted on 12/2/25 at 12:11 pm to DawgsLife
What are Texas’s top 3 wins and what are Notre Dame’s? And that’s exactly why Notre Dame has no business in the playoffs.
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