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re: "College football's top 24 jobs" according to ESPN and fellow coaches..
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:47 pm to EKG
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:47 pm to EKG
I'd rank USC and Texas as the top two. All of the top 10 have resources and tradition. But they offer one thing many of the other top 10 can't : fantastic cities to live in.
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:48 pm to STLhog
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Top 5 facilities in the nation
+ 5 million per year
yea, A&M in the middle of Houston and Dallas for recruiting plus all the above definitely makes them a terrible job destination...
you're right
Why have yall never won jack then?
Or even appeared in a BCS bowl. It's a crappy culture there, its not elite.
A&M did win 8 Conference Titles in the previous 15 years though (9 if you count the undefeated '94 season that we were ineligible but destroyed the SWC). How many Conference Titles does Arky have in the last 30 years?
The '00s were a dark period for A&M but it is also noteworthy that even then we were such an "unattractive job" that we hired away the HC from BAMA. The fact he was a disaster doesn't take away from the fact that at the time he was the hottest coach in the country and we stole him from a blue blood. In '82 A&M went and hired Sherrill from Pitt and made him the highest paid coach in the country (the first with a million dollar contract). A&M hasn't involuntarily lost a coach since Bear Bryant.
Ignore the facilities, money and resources, huge alumni and student support, status as the only SEC team in Texas, and elite recruiting base if you choose but a coach looking for a job doesn't. Why did John Chavis just leave LSU to come to A&M?
It's ridiculous to list Texas as #1 when they just had a coaching search and hired their #7 candidate (someone A&M passed on btw). If it is such a "top job" then why did no one want it?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:49 pm to EKG
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Not sure why you're laughing?
It's all subjective.
At the risk of waning philosophical, there is no truth, where any of this is concerned.
Yet folks respond to posts like these as if they're based on some kind of mathematical certainty.
"How is FSU a better job than South Carolina?" C'mon, man.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:50 pm to LSU GrandDad
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bullshite. how old are you? do you recall how much bama struggled after stallings and before saban. if saban had not taken the job they would still be struggling. they spent about 15 years and 4 or 5 coaches before saban. they were VERY lucky that saban didn't like the nfl.
We struggled between Stallings and Saban, but it was only a span of 10 seasons (Stallings left after 1996, Saban arrived in 2007). During that stretch, we still won an SEC championship in 1999, and would have played for one in 2002 if we weren't on probation. Our situation from 2001-2006 was mostly due to the probation. Who in their right mind would have taken the job during that period knowing the sanctions he was walking into?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:51 pm to aggressor
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A&M did win 8 Conference Titles in the previous 15 years though (9 if you count the undefeated '94 season that we were ineligible but destroyed the SWC). How many Conference Titles does Arky have in the last 30 years?
Bragging about SWC titles?
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The '00s were a dark period for A&M but it is also noteworthy that even then we were such an "unattractive job" that we hired away the HC from BAMA. The fact he was a disaster doesn't take away from the fact that at the time he was the hottest coach in the country and we stole him from a blue blood. In '82 A&M went and hired Sherrill from Pitt and made him the highest paid coach in the country (the first with a million dollar contract). A&M hasn't involuntarily lost a coach since Bear Bryant.
There's a very good reason why Fran left Alabama when he did.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:52 pm to DorchesterGamecock
I think lsu and Uga are too low. Those schools don't have administrations that have as short of a leash as the others in that teir
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:53 pm to tween the hedges
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Uga are too low
UGA doesn't have the facilties to shoot up the list quite yet
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:53 pm to aggressor
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The '00s were a dark period for A&M but it is also noteworthy that even then we were such an "unattractive job" that we hired away the HC from BAMA. The fact he was a disaster doesn't take away from the fact that at the time he was the hottest coach in the country and we stole him from a blue blood.
You hired our coach right about the time he realized just how bad the sanctions really were. He was looking for a way out.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:01 pm to tween the hedges
The Texas job obviously has a lot going for it but I just can't imagine a coach choosing the Horns over a comparable offer from USCw or Ohio St., or any of the top SEC teams. They're in a tier of their own when it comes to meddling politicians and delusional fans.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:17 pm to DorchesterGamecock
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1. Texas
What an idiot. Did the last Texas coaching search not prove anything?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:25 pm to chalupa
Strong is a good coach
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:26 pm to shinerfan
(Disclaimer: Didn't read the whole thread, so apologies if I'm repeating someone.)
If UTx was in the SEC, it would be the #1 job.
If both A&M and UTx were in the Big12, UTx MIGHT be the #1 job.
With A&M in the SEC, and UTx in the Big12, no way is UTx #1.
Having the #1 job in the nation means, at a minimum, you are dominating your state. Not necessarily in wins, because every program can have a downturn. But in the drawing of resources. Mostly recruiting, but also in terms of attracting coaches.
Fact is, Charlie Strong was nowhere close to the first choice for HC.
Fact is, A&M has been out-recruiting UTx ever since the SEC move. Even this year, when UTx finished one spot higher in the total class rankings, this was because they took more recruits. If you look at the recruits who had offers from both schools, A&M got 14 of them, while UTx got 6.
Now, before anyone posts about another aggy running his mouth, I completely acknowledge that A&M has been able to overtake UTx largely because of the SEC move. JFF helped, and Sumlin's a great recruiter, but neither of those two factors would have been enough w/o the SEC.
There are still many, like the old coaches in this poll, who haven't fully realized how much realignment has changed things. But the signs are there for anyone to see.
If UTx was in the SEC, it would be the #1 job.
If both A&M and UTx were in the Big12, UTx MIGHT be the #1 job.
With A&M in the SEC, and UTx in the Big12, no way is UTx #1.
Having the #1 job in the nation means, at a minimum, you are dominating your state. Not necessarily in wins, because every program can have a downturn. But in the drawing of resources. Mostly recruiting, but also in terms of attracting coaches.
Fact is, Charlie Strong was nowhere close to the first choice for HC.
Fact is, A&M has been out-recruiting UTx ever since the SEC move. Even this year, when UTx finished one spot higher in the total class rankings, this was because they took more recruits. If you look at the recruits who had offers from both schools, A&M got 14 of them, while UTx got 6.
Now, before anyone posts about another aggy running his mouth, I completely acknowledge that A&M has been able to overtake UTx largely because of the SEC move. JFF helped, and Sumlin's a great recruiter, but neither of those two factors would have been enough w/o the SEC.
There are still many, like the old coaches in this poll, who haven't fully realized how much realignment has changed things. But the signs are there for anyone to see.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:29 pm to Mirthomatic
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I completely acknowledge that A&M has been able to overtake UTx
Yeah, this hasn't happened
Also, Strong is by far a better coach than Sumlin
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:31 pm to Gladius Veritas
You may think he's a good coach, but that doesn't change the reality: He was far from the first, second, or third choice on the 40 Acres.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:32 pm to lsupride87
nd does pretty damn well in recruiting
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:33 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Yeah, this hasn't happened
Like I said...
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There are still many, like the old coaches in this poll, who haven't fully realized how much realignment has changed things. But the signs are there for anyone to see.
Let's let Strong post a winning season in a major conference, or at least get through a major conference season w/o fricking up the opening coin flip, before we sing his praises.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:33 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Yeah, this hasn't happened
Using what present-day metric hasn't it happened?
Put aside your emotion/trolling.
Just facts.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:40 pm to EKG
Damn went through 10 pages and no ole piss fan crying or trolling, interesting! 
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:45 pm to Mirthomatic
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Let's let Strong post a winning season in a major conference,
Which he's already done.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:50 pm to Korin
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Which he's already done.
You're saying the Big East is a major conference?
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 5:51 pm
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