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COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAMEDAY REVENUE

Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:06 pm


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Tony Altimore @TJAltimore FOOTBALL GAMEDAY REVENUE:

How much does an Athletic Dept. receive from tickets and stadium revenue?

In looking at the latest available data, it's surprising how little value many schools are capturing from football games, and I think this is one of the most important charts I've shared.

Below shows how much of the avg. total value at each football game from tickets + concessions + programs + souvenirs + parking at home CFB games goes to the athletic dept.

For some of them, it's not much, and needs to get higher. Many schools make a lot less per game than people would think, and suboptimal accounting allocation decisions by school CFOs, Comptrollers, and CSOs may need to change. More Athletic Depts. should benefit from the parking, concessions, facility $, bookstore merch, etc. that their football team is responsible for.

There are historical reasons of Athletic Dept. largesse and departmental noblesse oblige towards other auxiliary services depts. that should be reevaluated. Interestingly enough, I was part of a similar change in accounting strategy to recapture lost value at CIA many years ago, and it's hard for the peripheral depts., but these things need to change to better support the Athletic Dept. to capture and benefit from its value.

If any of the ADs or school leaders reading this want to chat about how to better capture the revenue you're giving away outside the Athletic Dept., shoot me a DM or email anytime, and let's chat!

Now, every school has its own peculiarities and eccentricity to their accounting, but these important benchmarks are what they are.

A big thanks to the great folks from @Sportico , @CFB_Data , and @KnightAthletics for the data they publish that let us see these benchmarks!

PLEASE NOTE: Source data and methodology issues are broken down in the sourcing footnote. For example, some schools may receive $0 from student tickets (as it arguably should be!), thus appropriately impacting averages, and away games have some small impact, but that's part of the reality of the financial picture.

FANS: Please do NOT whine in the comments (for real, please don't!) about why your favorite team's number is lower than rivals, but instead focus on how you can better support the Athletic Dept. by getting their numbers up.

This data is ONLY available for the public schools shown, but I'm happy to work with any private schools to help benchmark your internal data, if you have it and want to share!


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Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:07 pm to
Are you Big Game Bob on Twitter?
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:09 pm to
WHY ARE WE YELLING?
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:11 pm to
I DONT KNOW
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Are you Big Game Bob on Twitter?


No fricking way that guy is a troll account to get clicks. Not one OU fan likes him and anyone using his info should be ridiculed. And there is another troll too, I think BigBlue something or other who’s account looks similar to Loser Bob.

This has nothing fo do with them this is another person who dug into stats using public information.

I had never seen this data before and its eye opening for some teams.
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:13 pm to
List doesn't include ETSU. List is shite

They bring in 600 million annually, I guarantee it
Posted by everytrueson
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:13 pm to
More small print on why the data is crap than actual information shown on the graph.



Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:13 pm to
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WHY ARE WE YELLING


Its a headline copied exaclty as originator posted it, take it up with him. I post on phone and can’t do fast edits when posting.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:15 pm to
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OU Guy


All good man
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

List doesn't include ETSU. List is shite

They bring in 600 million annually, I guarantee it


I included the link to the originator person you can click and bitch at him if you want or just troll this thread which is easier
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:21 pm to
Texas & OU revenue getting ready to jump.
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:21 pm to
Sir you need to calm down. I've already contacted the OP and we have solved the issue.

Just please stop yelling
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Texas & OU revenue getting ready to jump.


Yes, this is FY22 which is actually season of 21, so 2 years old. I guess it takes time before all schools publish their data due to how they are different in many ways and whwn their fiscal years end and have to publish. I would expect Colorado to be much higher once the 23 season data is out in a year or more.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:41 pm to
UGA loses out on a lot of parking revenue because parking is sprawled out all over Athens with an abundance of free public parking, and many municipal options.

I'm also not sure if this figure accounts for the annual donation level it requires for the privilege of buying the tickets at face value from the school. At UGA, and probably other schools, the annual donation level far exceeds the face value of the ticket price. Say, $50 face on 6 tickets is $300. But you have to donate $5000 each year for the privilege to buy those tickets.
Posted by Ptins944
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:33 pm to
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UGA loses out on a lot of parking revenue because parking is sprawled out all over Athens with an abundance of free public parking, and many municipal options.

I'm also not sure if this figure accounts for the annual donation level it requires for the privilege of buying the tickets at face value from the school. At UGA, and probably other schools, the annual donation level far exceeds the face value of the ticket price. Say, $50 face on 6 tickets is $300. But you have to donate $5000 each year for the privilege to buy those tickets.

I would expect the “donation” is within the umbrella of the Athletic Department.

I’m assuming your $50 face was a hypothetical and not actual.

With an 8 game conference schedule, I think Texas will have 1 more home game every other year.

More games, better teams, higher demand, playoff game, cha ching, cha ching.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:49 pm to
I’m surprised at how low FSU is
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:52 pm to
This also shows to me that there is really little for either the SEC or B1G to gain by expanding further

Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 4:03 pm to
This graphic doesn’t tell you anything much more than you already know. Stadiums that seat more people have higher revenues. To have a better understanding of this a graphic that shows how revenue changes over time would be much better. I imagine some schools have under-performing years based on how the team is doing.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 4:05 pm to
Imo, this doesn’t include the value of donations..

Texas has 100,000 seats
lets say 40,000 goes to students, faculty, etc (little to no cost)

That leaves 60,000 tickets at around $100 each = $6,000,000 + parking, etc

That gets you close to the $7.8 million

quote:

This also shows to me that there is really little for either the SEC or B1G to gain by expanding further

Yes and no.. on one hand, Clemson & Notre Dame (not listed) would be the only “valuable” schools by this metric..

On the other hand, I would imagine a school like FSU would see a gigantic difference playing a better home schedule..

But the list is pretty small.

But that isn’t what drives expansion either.. it is eyeballs on TV.

FSU vs Georgia, Alabama, Texas etc would draw a good TV audience most years.. and therefore, they will be included at some point imo.

Notre Dame, Clemson both fit this model. Miami might as well, despite their lower fan attendance.

UNC probably elevates with a move to the SEC.. probably not much difference if they go to the B1G.
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