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re: Clemson is overrated

Posted on 9/9/18 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by ClemsonRules
Virginia
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 12:57 pm to
So I expected to see a lot of “Clemson is overrated” posts in today’s SEC rant echo chamber.

I only deal in facts so here are two that are indisputable: 1. Clemson is the only team that has beaten aTm at home this season and 2. aTm gave mighty Alabama all they could handle at home last year.

Until other SEC teams step up and beat aTm on the road in a nationally televised night game, calling Clemson overrated is talking out your arse
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10313 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

So I expected to see a lot of “Clemson is overrated” posts in today’s SEC rant echo chamber. I only deal in facts so here are two that are indisputable: 1. Clemson is the only team that has beaten aTm at home this season and 2. aTm gave mighty Alabama all they could handle at home last year. Until other SEC teams step up and beat aTm on the road in a nationally televised night game, calling Clemson overrated is talking out your arse


This is fair. I don't know why SEC fans are acting like A&M is without talent. Rather, A&M's roster is probably in the top 10 based strictly off talent. I thought A&M would beat Clemson. And, from top to bottom comparing the rosters I think it's damn near a wash between Clemson and A&M.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105503 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

1. Clemson is the only team that has beaten aTm at home this season and 2. aTm gave mighty Alabama all they could handle at home last year.



A&M didn't get within 2 possessions in the 2nd half until there were 17 seconds left. The game went 24-3, 24-10, 24-12, 27-12 from halftime to the 20 seconds left in the game mark. "All we could handle" is a bit of an exaggeration.

A win is a win, but don't try that nonsense.

quote:

Until other SEC teams step up and beat aTm on the road in a nationally televised night game, calling Clemson overrated is talking out your arse


Just remember the war you just endured against the 3rd-5th best team in the SEC West the next time you laugh at SEC West teams talking about how almost every week is a grind in our division.

Compare last night to playing on the road at Wake Forest or Louisville. There is no comparison. That doesn't make Clemson worse, but it should make you reconsider flippantly laughing away that argument.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
21801 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:08 pm to
Love it when LSU fans call another team overrated...
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15502 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:11 pm to
I agree, no slight at TAMU, they played a whale of a game. That said, a first year coach in a massive program shift should not have been able to do what they did.

I think TAMU will be up and down and could finish with 5 losses.

Which leaves Clemson as over rated.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
2270 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:17 pm to
Hoping Dawgs get that soft arse Clemmons offense in the CFP to get to 43-18 all time against that assclown dabo.
Posted by ClemsonRules
Virginia
Member since Jan 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:21 pm to
I agree the SEC West looks solid top to bottom this year. It will be a grind this year for any of those teams. I also agree the ACC appears less talented this season.

That said, Clemson had to grind through a much tougher ACC schedule last year (VaTech Louisville on the road)including OOC games against Auburn and USC from the SEC, and had to play Miami in the ACC championship while Bama sat home on the couch. Ease of schedule to the CFP changes for teams annually. This year Clemson has an easier path.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105503 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:25 pm to
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That said, Clemson had to grind through a much tougher ACC schedule last year (VaTech Louisville on the road)including OOC games against Auburn and USC from the SEC, and had to play Miami in the ACC championship while Bama sat home on the couch.



Louisville stunk last season. Virginia Tech was average at best. Miami proved to be overrated and weak. South Carolina was also average at best. Alabama probably lucked out not going to their title game (because the opponent would have been the team we played for the national title) but they would have waltzed through that schedule Clemson played just as easily as Clemson did (including an early game at home against an Auburn team figuring things out).

Look, Clemson is great. The ACC has been better than normal the last few years and the SEC takes up a lot of the air in the room and sometimes rightly gets laughed at when it goes bad.

But generally, the idea that week in and week out the SEC West involves going to big loud stadiums to play NFL athletes is almost always true. And people have been so jealous of it the last decade that they always like to laugh and act like it's not a real thing. It is.

Clemson would do fine in it because they are a program filled with great coaches and really good NFL players. But nobody else in that league would.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Clemson is overrated




Remember when Alabama could have lost to a 7-6 team, or the 5th best team in the West? I remember that, too.

Settle down.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105503 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Remember when Alabama could have lost to a 7-6 team, or the 5th best team in the West? I remember that, too.


The game where A&M scored with 17 seconds left to cut it to 8? Yea, we were on the ledge.

Clemson is really good. They had some areas that hadn't been previously discussed as weaknesses look like weaknesses last night. However, they'll have 3 months to figure it out.
Posted by General RL Bullard
Huntsville
Member since Aug 2018
1026 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:50 pm to
That chick Clemson played at QB some last night wasn’t quite what she was cracked up to be. She showed promise, but she’s definitely no Tua.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:50 pm to
Maybe the Aggies are really good.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

The game where A&M scored with 17 seconds left to cut it to 8? Yea, we were on the ledge.


No. A&M was still in a different conference...
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:01 pm to
Aggies suck and will be 2-2 paying a coach 75 million
Posted by TAFC 5 81
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2017
91 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:48 pm to
Clemson didn't play or coach that well last night, but still won (good teams are supposed to do that). I don't care for Sinbo personally because of the crap he defended at F$U, but he can be a really good game day coach (he was last night). Clemson may not have the toughest schedule but they sure seem to get the opponents best shot a lot.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:23 pm to
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Until other SEC teams step up and beat aTm on the road in a nationally televised night game


This happened quite frequently under Sumlin.

2014 - Ole Miss
2014 - LSU
2015 - Auburn
2016 - Ole Miss
2016 - LSU
2017 - Alabama
2017 - Mississippi State
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:25 pm to
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No. A&M was still in a different conference...


A&M was in the Big 12 in 2013? 2017?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:25 pm to
Mond was lucky he wasn't picked off like 5 times in the game. They had good fortune on offense including a deflection for a touchdown.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Aggies suck and will be 2-2 paying a coach 75 million


2-2 start. 10-2 finish including the first of many rapings of corndog-U.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Mond was lucky he wasn't picked off like 5 times in the game. They had good fortune on offense including a deflection for a touchdown.


Clemson was lucky that one of the best kickers in college football missed a 26-yarder.

Bryant was lucky his screen pass in the 2nd Clemson drive was only a 2-yard loss instead of a 30 yard interception return by the DE.

Clemson was lucky that Mond cramped up, allowing Starkel to Starkel it up, fumbling into a defender's hands.

Bryant was lucky his receiver didn't get called for blatant pass interference on the 3rd Clemson TD drive.
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