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re: Chubb vs LF
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:18 am to NGATiger
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:18 am to NGATiger
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Stacking the box has nothing to do with the plays that were called though. I guarantee that defenses had only 1 safety playing back WAYYYY more often than they did against us. I remember several occasions where the safeties didn't even pretend like they had zones to cover in the defensive backfield, they rushed up to the LOS like linebackers.
This is a reach. There's no way you could know that unless you were either in the team meeting rooms of defenses scheming for UGA and LSU, or had actually spend 100s of hours breaking down the film.
BTW, I guarantee they still had some defensive assignment on a passing play.
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:19 am to bamasgot13
Chubb didn't pick LSU over Bama, so Chubb is better.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:19 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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We've been down this road before. If you compare their measurements Chubb is actually the prototypical RB. But they are both are great backs though.
I see Chubb as the next Maurice jones-drew while fournette is a hybrid of gore and ap IMO.
Can't wait to see both guys run this year. Sec defenses gonna be hurting
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:19 am to bamasgot13
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Chubb - 219
LF - 187
Facts to consider in this debate:
UGA passed on 37% of plays and ran on 63%
LSU passed on 31% of plays and ran on 69%
Point: That's a difference, but not enough to say that teams didn't stack box against Chubb. If you're running 63% of the time - and you have Hutson Mason as your QB - teams are stacking the box.
What they meant to their teams:
Chubb - 46% of his team's rushing yards, 39% of his team's carries, and 37% of his team's rushing TDs.
LF - 35% of his team's rushing yards, 30% of his team's carries, and 40% of their rushing TDs.
Point: they were both heavily relied upon and the point could easily be made that UGA relied on Chubb more than LF (so stop the whole "he was our whole offense and teams stacked to stop him" argument...it applies more so to Chubb)
Finally, Chubb had 32 more carries and 513 more yards. LF would have had to average over 16 ypc on 32 additional carries just to match Chubb's production at RB. Chubb wins.
Why do you hate potential so much?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:19 am to Crowknowsbest
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This is a reach. There's no way you could know that unless you were either in the team meeting rooms of defenses scheming for UGA and LSU
So you have watched the film know for a fact teams stacked the box just as much against UGA as they did LSU?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:22 am to NGATiger
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So you have watched the film know for a fact teams stacked the box just as much against UGA as they did LSU?
No, but I never made that claim. I just said Chubb also faced stacked boxes.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:24 am to LSU Patrick
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Chubb didn't pick LSU over Bama, so Chubb is better.
yeah. nailed it. that's the basis of my argument. that a kid who wouldn't have started at Bama last year or this year chose to go to a school bama has beaten 4 times in a row and is located in his backyard instead of coming to alabama with other elite LA recruits.
I promise you after the last 4 games, LSU is way more concerned with Bama than Bama is with LSU. The facts are that Chubb just performed better than LF. LF has an opportunity to change the opinions of others this season, but as of right now - viewing the data and facts available today - Chubb has been better.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:25 am to Vols&Shaft83
Maybe UF.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:25 am to bamasgot13
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bamasgot13
So we are going to compare stats of guys who only played 4 common opponents, Auburn Arkansas Kentucky and UF, in different offenses, with different OL and QBs?
The only edge I give Chubb over LF is in the ability to break off the long run, and even that I wonder how much of it was a result of the offense. Plus LF showed more of that towards the end of the season, some guys take longer to grasp how to hit holes and read blocks on a college level.
You can argue all you want for one over the other, but you can't go wrong either way.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:27 am to Crowknowsbest
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No, but I never made that claim. I just said Chubb also faced stacked boxes.
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Fournette also saw 8 in the box all year due to us having a shitshow of a passing game
I rarely comment in this debate, but this is the dumbest argument LSU fans make on this subject. Did any of y'all actually watch UGA play last year? Every team loaded the box against UGA. Hutson Mason scared no one. Chubb (and Gurley and Michel) ran right into the teeth of 8 man fronts all year.
Thats implying either that UGA faced 8 in the box just as much as LSU, or that 8 in the box doesn't affect the running game.
Which way you gonna go with this?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:28 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Because we have other great backs that he'll have to share the load. LF is your entire offense.
Sweet hog/ag impression.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:28 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Maybe UF.
they looked pretty effective against you
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:29 am to junkfunky
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Sweet hog/ag impression.
No, thats a dumb poster impression.
Actually, probably not an impression.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:30 am to Vols&Shaft83
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That never happened to Chubb and Hurd, never
haha, trying to subtly sneak your boy into a discussion where he isn't relevant, how very UGA of you
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:32 am to NGATiger
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Fournette also saw 8 in the box all year due to us having a shitshow of a passing game
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Thats implying either that UGA faced 8 in the box just as much as LSU, or that 8 in the box doesn't affect the running game.
It's implying that Chubb also "saw 8 in the box all year."
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:33 am to Crowknowsbest
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It's implying that Chubb also "saw 8 in the box all year."
Dodge the question
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:34 am to Pettifogger
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haha, trying to subtly sneak your boy into a discussion where he isn't relevant, how very UGA of you
Hurd will impregnate Buga's girlfriend and make him pay the child support.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:36 am to NGATiger
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Dodge the question
That's all I ever said. I don't want to go any other way with it, because that would mean making shite up.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:36 am to NGATiger
Eat a bag dicks dude. You are bitching that teams stacked the box because you have no passing game. He is/will be your offense.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:37 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Hurd will impregnate Buga's girlfriend and make him pay the child support.
He has a problem with scoring so I doubt it
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