re: Chubb vs LF

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ALL OF THEM. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. JaxTiger assures us it is so. Unfortunately, not one of the (every single) scouts were apparently allowed to vote for the First Team All SEC or SEC Freshman of The Year awards. 

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Tre mason made all sec over Jeremy hill too.

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You're trying way too hard to twist the statistics so I'll just assume that you're not smart enough to understand the numbers that I set right in front of your face. There's no "relationship" and it doesn't "hold" because you'd have to be an idiot to trust a high school dog and pony show event's numbers over the NFL combine where everything is ridiculously accurate and millions of dollars are on the line.

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I realize that you don't quite understand why it's more reliable to compare data from the same venue when assessing the relationship between the two events, and I didn't want to keep twisting the statistics and upsetting you, so I imported your NFL data into excel. Don't worry, I work with numbers quite a bit, it took me literally 5 seconds to import the table and was well worth it to help you understand these rather straightforward concepts.

Anyway, a couple of quick formulas later, reveals that your dataset showed a 40 time that was, on average, 0.31 seconds longer than the shuttle time. Standard deviation was 0.145. So, on average, a guy who runs a 4.3 shuttle like Leonard would run a 4.61 second 40 using the million dollar NFL numbers. But, like I said before, Leonard could be that guy out on the tails of the curve. It's too bad that he chose not to make his number public, and we could have avoided this whole discussion and talked more about his potential similarity to Adrian Peterson. Or maybe we could discuss whether his 4.30 shuttle allows him to make moves like this.

Be that as it may, I can say with a high degree of confidence that the correlation and differential between 40 and shuttle is quite reproducible across time and venues.

The simple fact is LSU fans are too emotionally invested in LF's supposed greatness to admit he is anything less than THE BESTEST SEC RUNNING BACK EVER. They way overhyped the kid, and when he looked just good but nothing spectacular they have painted themselves into a corner to where they have to cling to subjective terms like "potential".

Does anyone want to place a small wager that LF does not run a sub-4.4 40 time when he goes to Indianapolis? (I'm guessing he'll end up north of 4.5 when all is said and done)

Everyone calm down. On an LSU site, potential > stats. LF > NC

Heck go ahead and get the guy a bust for the HOF next to Earl Campbell

Chubb is a wood magnet

15 pages of butt frustration

Not today my friend. Just reading through this thread seeing LSU fans swarm and attack anyone who doesn't say LF can control the space time continuum, shot John Lennon, brought balance to the force, can fly ten times as fast as superman, and will be without doubt the GOAT at every position.

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you have the critical thinking skills of a Down syndrome third grader if you think that hurts my argument

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What a horrible thing to say.

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Lf does have more potential. Chubb has produced better but every single scout ranked LF above Chubb for a reason.

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Not hardly. You cannot measure potential. It is an opinion. You cannot say definitively that one player has more potential than another one. nobody can say what player can be the better player....they can only guess.