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re: Chris Low new article: Auditing the SEC's talent producers
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:52 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:52 am to Tuscaloosa
It made us a different team, we seemed to do fine in 2009 with chris todd. I don`t understand what you are trying to argue? Would texas of lost if Dareus didn`t knock colt mccoy out? Did Grizzly Adams have a beard?
Anyways your trying to have a debate about a Chris Low article...tsk tsk
Anyways your trying to have a debate about a Chris Low article...tsk tsk
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:55 am to TheCaterpillar
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yet Georgia gets curb stomped by both LSU and Bama
The last time UGA and alabama played was not within this timeframe. swing and a miss.
As for LSU, well... when you compare 1 first rounder (which was not on the team last year when we were "curb stomped" after leading at halftime) and 5 in the first 3 rounds to 3 first rounders and 11 in the top 3 rounds, it's not hard to see that one team has decidedly more talent. And the other team has mike bobo.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:56 am to wardamnamerica
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Did Grizzly Adams have a beard?
Grizzly adams DID have a beard
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:58 am to wardamnamerica
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we seemed to do fine in 2009 with chris todd
You won 8 games. That's my point
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:58 am to WG_Dawg
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And the other team has mike bobo.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:02 am to Tuscaloosa
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we'll never find out
Kind of makes your argument pointless.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:06 am to parkjas2001
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Kind of makes your argument pointless.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:09 am to Tuscaloosa
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You won 8 games. That's my point
Weren't we only supposed to win like 5 games in 2009, but ended up with 8? Overproduction wouldn't you say?
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:16 am to Tuscaloosa
You can't say who over or under performed based on their talent by comparing their results to the NFL draft. Kellen Moore didn't get drafted, but he was a damned fine qb. Poe didn't do shite in college, but blew up the combine and went rocketing up the draft board. Antonio Allen was one of the best safeties ins the SEC and he fell to the 7th...etc. There are two many factors that go into where a player is drafted besides how he can play football on the college level.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:18 am to Hogtastic Voyage
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A friend and I were discussing this recently. We came to the conclusion that any 2010 West team, besides Ole Miss, would have won the SEC with Cam. What says the rant?
Everyone loves to conveniently forget that Auburn was loaded on the O-line with Seniors and had the best D-linemen in the SEC that year. Auburn was very good at stopping the run on D and great at running the ball. That is, and always will be, the recipe for success in this league.
Football is won in the trenches in this league and Auburn was very good on that front in 2010.
Cam put them over the top, but without that O-line, Auburn would have been just mediocre.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:22 am to Tammany Tom
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Everyone loves to conveniently forget that Auburn was loaded on the O-line with Seniors and had the best D-linemen in the SEC that year. Auburn was very good at stopping the run on D and great at running the ball. That is, and always will be, the recipe for success in this league.
Football is won in the trenches in this league and Auburn was very good on that front in 2010.
Cam put them over the top, but without that O-line, Auburn would have been just mediocre.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:32 am to parkjas2001
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parkjas2001
Chris Low new article: Auditing the SEC's talent producers
Nobody is arguing the impact of our best player. Its just funny that it only happens to Auburn. If you take the best player from other teams, they do just
If you take Mark Ingram off the 2009 Bama team, and Trent Richardson had been the starting running back, which game(s) do you think Bama would have lost?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:45 am to parkjas2001
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take off the best player on any team and they dont do as well...shocking I know.
Looks like Bama, UF, and UGA cant seem to win a NT without a Heisman candidate either...but only Au gets that albatross around its neck.
Someone didn't look at the list in the OP. Yes Bama had Heisman candidates, but from looking at the list above it appears they also had some pretty good talent to compliment them. Auburn not so much. Is it really that hard to understand why the rest of the nation believes Auburn would not have come close to the national title without Cam? It's not a knock, but more a compliment to the season he had. You take Trent away last year and Bama IMO still has the same record. It's not like Bama played a close game outside of the 1st LSU matchup. Some of the games would have been closer, but wins none the less.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:51 am to Tuscaloosa
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Auburn appears to have vastly out-performed their talent level. 2010 certainly helped in boosting that W/L percentage. I'm not sure what that year would have been like without Cam Newton. The team was certainly not full of NFL talent as you'd come to expect an undefeated SEC team to be.
I think Auburn people have been saying this for three years now but nobody wants to listen.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:54 am to nicholastiger
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nicholastiger
So Miles is on par with Saban with less talent
Well since the time frame of the research is 3 years, one coach has 2 national titles and the other has none...you tell me
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:56 am to BamaGradinTn
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If you take Mark Ingram off the 2009 Bama team, and Trent Richardson had been the starting running back, which game(s) do you think Bama would have lost?
None of course...it only works with AU.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:58 am to parkjas2001
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None of course...it only works with AU.
although you're being sarcastic, I think bama '09 with trent richardson starting at tailback has a much better chance to win a title than '10 auburn with barrett trotter @ QB...agree or disagree?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 11:00 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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although you're being sarcastic
Not at all. Take out Ingram, you win with TR. Take out TR, you win with EL. UF takes out Tim, they win with Brantley. But if youtake out Cam, yeah we shite the bed.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 11:06 am to parkjas2001
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Not at all. Take out Ingram, you win with TR. Take out TR, you win with EL. UF takes out Tim, they win with Brantley. But if youtake out Cam, yeah we shite the bed.
I am kind of amazed you would be so offended by this. IMO Auburn fans should embrace the fact they may have had the best (or close to) college QBs to ever play. So what if Auburn wouldn't have sniffed 10 wins without Cam? Why is that offensive to you? It just signifies to me how great a player he was. Lighten up.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 11:08 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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I am kind of amazed you would be so offended by this.
Im not offended by this because this...
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if youtake out Cam, yeah we shite the bed.
is very true. Whats funny is that nobody will admit that this...
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Take out Ingram, you win with TR. Take out TR, you win with EL. UF takes out Tim, they win with Brantley.
is false.
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