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re: Chances that LSU/Bama Winner Does Not Win Out
Posted on 11/4/11 at 8:51 am to allin2010
Posted on 11/4/11 at 8:51 am to allin2010
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Neither team finishes undefeated. You can thank the hype for this game as one small part of that.
While I agree that the hype is nauseating, the teams have nothing to do with it and will go about their business quietly and is not going to cause LSU , which beats Bama, to lose to ole miss or R-kansas later in the month.
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Posted on 11/4/11 at 9:13 am to CalTiger
This is a great question. The two most physical teams in the SEC will take the piss out of each other tomorrow night. There is a very real possibility that attrition can take a toll on either of them.
Posted on 11/4/11 at 10:40 am to CrimsonBlitz
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This is a great question. The two most physical teams in the SEC will take the piss out of each other tomorrow night. There is a very real possibility that attrition can take a toll on either of them.
The two teams are where they are because of
1. Great coaching
2. Great 1st Team
3. Almost as great 2nd team
4. Rest of the SEC sucks comparatively.
None of this is going to change after Nov 5th. I do think that the trap for LSU is much later (and gives them time to recuperate) than for Bama but c'mon , the only issue I see at Miss State is a possible head ache for Saban from the cowbells, which will only make him thrash them even more
Posted on 11/4/11 at 10:45 am to NOTORlOUSD
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What are the SEC's tiebreakers for that situation?
It's highest BCS ranking, UNLESS the next highest team is ranked within 5 spots of the first. In that case, it goes to a head to head between the 2 teams. UGA/UF/UT all tied in 03 and that's what it came down to with us going.
If memory serves, that BCS rule was scrambled to be put in at the last minute by the SEC because nothing like that had happened before. I'm pretty sure that before they put it in, after you went down the first 6 or so tiebreaker options if it was still tied, the deciding factor would be a league vote by the ADs
Posted on 11/4/11 at 10:50 am to WG_Dawg
If Alabama wins they will finish undefeated no doubt.If LSU wins I think Arkansas beats them. LSU hasn't gone undefeated since 1958 and Les Miles never has. That's a lot of pressure
Posted on 11/4/11 at 10:50 am to NOTORlOUSD
5%
Posted on 11/4/11 at 10:51 am to GeauxSaban
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If LSU wins I think Arkansas beats them
lol
Posted on 11/4/11 at 11:03 am to CalTiger
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You do realize that the same squads don't play each year and that the average level of the top team and the rest of the teams change. There is an absolute scale each year with the rankings but those rankings are only relative to THAT year and not on an absolute scale.
On the scale of college football history, I doubt that any other roster has ever had 12 future pro-bowlers or 17 future 1st rounders. I'll repeat what I said earlier: if that team could have a slip-up game, any team could.
Posted on 11/4/11 at 11:13 am to NOTORlOUSD
LSU already played their "slip-up" game at Miss State. and Bama could be facing a similar challenge next week against them win or lose this week.
The past history has no bearing on these 19-22 year old kids. All they are going to remember is how pissed off they were losing to Arky last year and wanting to exact revenge at home and play for a bigger prize.
If we beat Bama this week we pummle Arky at home. Honestly, I am more worried right now about playing Ole Miss on the road (after this weekend) because Ole Miss always gives us fits no matter what our records are and Houston Nutt always plays us tough.
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If Alabama wins they will finish undefeated no doubt.If LSU wins I think Arkansas beats them. LSU hasn't gone undefeated since 1958 and Les Miles never has. That's a lot of pressure
The past history has no bearing on these 19-22 year old kids. All they are going to remember is how pissed off they were losing to Arky last year and wanting to exact revenge at home and play for a bigger prize.
If we beat Bama this week we pummle Arky at home. Honestly, I am more worried right now about playing Ole Miss on the road (after this weekend) because Ole Miss always gives us fits no matter what our records are and Houston Nutt always plays us tough.
This post was edited on 11/4/11 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/4/11 at 11:19 am to bigbowe80
I am on board that the scariest game for either team is Alabama having to go on the road to Starkvegas immediately after this game. I can't believe Alabama fans are that arrogant as to think this is some kind of shoe-in win. Miss. State plays very good defense, better than they are getting credit for right now. They are going to be extremely jacked up for this game, especially if Bama wins, but either way. This is a HUGE HUGE letdown game for Bama after 8 weeks of build up to the LSU game. This game more than any other left on either schedule smells like a trap to me.
Posted on 11/4/11 at 11:27 am to NOTORlOUSD
Both will win out. 95%.
Posted on 11/4/11 at 11:27 am to NOTORlOUSD
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On the scale of college football history, I doubt that any other roster has ever had 12 future pro-bowlers or 17 future 1st rounders. I'll repeat what I said earlier: if that team could have a slip-up game, any team could.
You are not comprehending this - so let me use numbers to illustrate the point.
Let's assume on an absolute scale of 100
2001 Miami was 95
2001 other teams were max 85 - difference of at least 10
2011 LSU could be just 90 but
2011 other teams max is 80 - difference is again 10.
Therefore even though they could be theoretically less on an absolute scale than Miami was ( with respect to each year or overall) , the capability of the other teams in 2011 could potentially be far less leading to a wider difference and gap between the teams.
Posted on 11/4/11 at 11:57 am to CalTiger
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Let's assume on an absolute scale of 100
2001 Miami was 95
2001 other teams were max 85 - difference of at least 10
2011 LSU could be just 90 but
2011 other teams max is 80 - difference is again 10.
Therefore even though they could be theoretically less on an absolute scale than Miami was ( with respect to each year or overall) , the capability of the other teams in 2011 could potentially be far less leading to a wider difference and gap between the teams.
For your hypothetical numbers to work out, the 2001 Big East would have to be rated as better competition than the 2011 SEC West.
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