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re: Carson Beck now expected to miss ENTIRE CFP
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:28 pm to Smokeyone
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:28 pm to Smokeyone
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The limited snaps in college he’s taken.
You're not looking at those snaps though. He's had 3 college games in which he took meaningful, non-garbage time snaps.
The bowl against FSU last year when he was the #2 because BVG had entered the portal.
6-10 passing, 96 yards, 206 passer rating. 2 TD, 0 INT. 7 carries for 46 yards.
UTC this year when Beck left very early.
10-12 passing, 90 yards. 3 carries for 2 yards.
Second half against Texas
12-16 passing, 71 yards. 0 TD, 1 INT. 8 carries for 8 yards.
None of these numbers suggest a run first QB. That's the point I'm making. It's not that you think he'll fail. It's fine that you think that. But you're characterizing him as a run first QB like Vince Young (with less talent of course), when he's actually a pass first QB who can run like Baker Mayfield. You are not familiar with the TYPE of QB he is, which makes your predictions about his success very suspect.
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Didn’t Fromm and Vandergriff set highschool records too?
Obviously not. If they had, Stockton would have broken Fromm or Vandagriffs records. Deshaun Watson still had the records at the time.
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So far he’s a backyard scrambler without a proven arm.
See above. He's clearly NOT that even in just his main games for UGA. You're just not actually looking at him as a player.
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There is a reason these guys don’t translate very well. He’s not fast, but willing to scramble, can’t see over the line of scrimmage, hasn’t shown an arm.
You can fixate on what you want him to be or you can look at the film are deal with what he is today. He might hit a growth spurt and hit 6’1 or 6’2 and UGA might hire a qb coach that could develop him(it’s doubtful). But today he’s a QB that looks a bit lost and gun shy.
Again... you literally have no clue about the player you're talking about. He is 6-1. he was 6-1/220 as a recruit and he's 6-1/215 now. He's not particularly gun shy.
In the 3 games he's played significant minutes in (two against top 6 opponents) he's thrown the ball 38 times and completed 28 of them. 74% completion. 257 yards and 2 TD. 18 carries for 56 yards.
You are literally just making stuff up about him to fit a narrative, not actually looking at what he's done for your analysis.
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:35 pm to DawginSC
I don’t want to jump into your discussion with Smokey but you should be clear on this statement.
He is no where near as fast or has the wiggle Baker or Stetson have. He’s a load but he isn’t those guys.
He is a better thrower than BVG but we need to see if he has it between the ears.
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pass first QB who can run like Baker Mayfield
He is no where near as fast or has the wiggle Baker or Stetson have. He’s a load but he isn’t those guys.
He is a better thrower than BVG but we need to see if he has it between the ears.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:41 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
quote:And the backup was a 5* getting all of the reps and 3 weeks to design packages that suit his style seems like something Bobo should be able to do. But, I thought this was old news and that he likely needed Tommy John.
I’m no football expert but I’m going to guess by playing the backup.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:49 pm to Aguga
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He is no where near as fast or has the wiggle Baker or Stetson have.
I didn't mean that he runs in the same manner as Mayfield. I meant that he throws first and runs second in the same way guys like Baker Mayfield and Sam Howell did in college.
Neither of them were running QB's. They were passing QB's who could run some.
As for his speed, he reportedly runs a 4.65 40. If that is accurate it compares to 4.67 for Stetson Bennett and 4.84 for Baker Mayfield (and 4.57 for Sam Howell).
You're right that he's not a "shifty" runner. But he is pretty fast in a straight line and he is (as you put it) a load to bring down.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:50 pm to Diamondawg
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And the backup was a 5* getting all of the reps and 3 weeks to design packages that suit his style seems like something Bobo should be able to do. But, I thought this was old news and that he likely needed Tommy John.
This is an old thread, so yeah it's old news.
Smokey keeps bringing it back because he things UGA's backup (Stockton) is a run first QB who can't pass and for some reason can't let that fallacy go.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:28 pm to Gaggle
Beck already has another year of eligibility. He is free to go pro, come back to UGA or sign a deal with any other college team.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:38 pm to DawginSC
Stockton is much slower than Bennett and he doesn't make tacklers miss. Stockton doesn't have Beck's quick release. Stockton does have a strong accurate arm and he has good touch. He's also tough and likes to run. The team responds to Stockton well and he's good at converting first downs. UGA is likely better off with Stockton as long as he stays healthy.
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