re: Can we all admire how terrible these calls were?

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This is almost as humiliating a topic as your white people commit a disproportionately higher number of hate crimes and then provides stats that proved that wasn't true thread.

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That thread is a work of art

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Still would rather be a Tiger. You all can say what you want but you wish you had a program like LSU. State won last night. We get it.

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I would trade straight up right now they will probably be better than LSU for at least the next two seasons

1st pic, you see him lower his head to hit with top of helmet.

#2 - still trying to figure out that weird head jerk on the QB

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LSU Passing 13/29 137 yds
LSU Rushing 133 yds

Miss St Passing 15/23 180 yds
Miss St Rushing 285

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Honestly, it felt like Miss St. Had about 750 yards of offense. What a beating

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Facemask went into the QBs facemask, yes

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I think we're disagreeing over what the "crown" of a football helmet actually is. To me, if it's facemask-to-facemask contact, then by definition, it's not leading with the crown.

Regarding helmet-to-helmet, if that's the rules, then that's the rules, and I don't care so much about the personal fouls... but the ejections are just an absurd result, no matter how I look at it. That's just not targeting to me.

In the first case, the LSU player held back some on purpose and didn't hit the QB with full force. It almost looked like a half-speed drill. In the second case, there was no lowering of the head or coiling at all--where else is the D-lineman going to go on that play?

I mean, you've probably got the better point here about the should/whether distinction, but it's just a very weird end result. I can't see myself being a replay official arguing for an ejection in either case.

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We may be, but I'm seeing the traditional "Jack fell down and broke his crown" hit there. You'd think with as many cameras and angles as they have nowadays, there'd be a clearly video closeup of the hit from a perpendicular angle.

I will grant that ejection seems a bit iffy, but I think that's because the NCAA is trying to send a message about these hits. Once things settle down and people adjust their tackling/blocking styles, I suspect ejection will be far less common even for hits identical to these because the NCAA no longer has a burner under the refs' asses over the issue.

In 2 years, Coach O will have LSU going 4-8 and 5-7 every season that he coaches. Alleva failed you. I hope O has a long tenure at LSU.

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I will grant that ejection seems a bit iffy, but I think that's because the NCAA is trying to send a message about these hits. Once things settle down and people adjust their tackling/blocking styles, I suspect ejection will be far less common even for hits identical to these because the NCAA no longer has a burner under the refs' asses over the issue.

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Yeah. That does make sense. I guess I'm guilty of just wanting refs to have more judgmental discretion than they actually have at this point, and there is a logic to having a transition phase of strict enforcement.

God. What an awful game. Everything went wrong, and even if everything had went right, LSU would still have gotten its arse kicked. I'm still in shock at how badly our linebackers got beaten.

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In 2 years, Coach O will have LSU going 4-8 and 5-7 every season that he coaches. Alleva failed you. I hope O has a long tenure at LSU.

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Alleva is obviously a REC plant