re: Can Georgia becomes the Alabama of the east?

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Do you really want to compare the average scores during our ownership of auburn? It would favor uga by a strong margin.

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What arbitrary years do you plan to go back. How about odd years when a Republican President was in office. What is the overall record ?

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Irons Puppet

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It (conf champ) should be the main consideration.

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Conferences are not nearly equal. IMO, they should not really be considered at all. But it does not matter what your or my opinion is, we play by the rules as they are. And they clearly state that it is only a consideration and not a requirement. Things have not turned out as you like, so you whine about the rules. Btw, very few knowledgeable fans agree with your view because conferences can be so vastly different and you especially penalize teams that go through the meat-grinder that the SEC often is.

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Just look at the number of teams who would have qualified under the old BCS system, and even the latest who have qualified under the new system ... just take into account the arguments for who should have and who shouldn't have gotten bids into the playoffs since it began.

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Every program that isn’t an elite recruiter that has slipped into the playoffs has lost, most of them very badly. None of them have really threatened a title in reality. Washington got crushed, Michigan State got crushed, etc. Any concept of parity at the top is just hopeful.

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Big difference. Nobody from AU is saying that either.

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Because you are 3-10 vs uga since ownership went to Athens. That’s ga tech level.

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To a degree I can be on board with your reasoning....but South Carolina, in their heyday with Steve Spurrier, proved they could hang with the big boys. They went through a3-5 year peiod of time in which they were as good as, better than, or at least close to Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn and LSU.
They couldn't sustain it, but they proved to me, that they are capable of becoming a major player over a short term with the right coach.

True, they stumbled and fell short in some of those years, but that is a part of learning how to win consistently. Shoot, lots of teams stumble occasionally. LSU/Troy. Auburn/UCF, etc...Georgia has stumbled and so has everybody else. But South Carolina had some excellent teams for a period of time. If they can find the right coach, learn more consistency....lookout.

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It is fair to have a different perspective, but it doesn't mean it is the right one.

You see Steve Spurrier's time at South Carolina as proof "they could hang with the big boys." I see it as proof that they'll never really make a considerable move from their historical place in the bottom half of the conference.

Some thoughts to consider - Steve Spurrier won a league title with a terrible Duke team in his third year. He won a league title with Florida in his second season. He never won a league title in 11 years at South Carolina. In other words, a hall of fame, proven championship coach could not get the South Carolina program to even a conference championship in over a decade.

It's also no accident that his short run coincided with a few other things - (1) Derek Dooley at Tennessee, (2) Will Muschamp at Florida (which is a little bit of irony - a large part of the reason for their best success in school history is their current coaches poor performance at another school), (3) some generational talent recruits that they signed the likes of which they have never seen before then or after then. Alshon Jeffrey was a USC lock because his older brother committed there (although he never made the grades), South Pointe High School put out a ton of talent and they signed pretty much all of them (GIlmore, Holloman, Clowney). Lattimore's sister was a student there already and he followed. And (4) Clemson was down. Bowden stepped down. People have forgotten how bad of financial straits the Clemson program was in at that time. When Dabo was hired, he was paid $800k. The lowest paid coach in the SEC was Rich Brooks at Kentucky at $1.6m. He was hired in large part because he was very cheap and it paid off in spades for both he and the University. But I digress.

You have all that going on at once - Clemson struggling, Florida struggling, Tennessee struggling, Richt doing Richt things, generational talents who almost never pick USCe actually picking USCe, and you combine all that with one of the best SEC coaches of all time and the best they could do was make the SEC title game once where they got boat raced by Auburn by around 40 pts.

I don't think that indicates USCe can hang with the big boys. I think it indicates that even under the most ideal conditions they could experience, the best they could do is one SEC title game appearance and zero titles.

That's more to do with Spurrier's lazy recruiting finally catching up to him.

Au does have that one mnc thanks to a one year rental from urban from 2010, but uga has been far better since then.

Uga has a playoff victory, unlike auburn, and we didn’t need extreme flukes to win the sec, like auburn.

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Au does have that one mnc thanks to a one year rental from urban from 2010, but uga has been far better since then.

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Doesn’t matter. They still have a national championship recently. That’s far more than Georgia has. You also have to factor in that Auburn has played a MUCH tougher schedule than Georgia during those years. There has been zero excuses for Georgia not to have dominated the east the last 10 years. Tennessee has been shite and Florida has been less than good. You have zero other opponents in the East that are real contenders to be major programs. The West has Auburn, Bama, LSU, who are all teams that bring in top rated talent yearly. During this time you had State become a much better program and even Ole Miss had a few good years (although they got caught cheating). There really isn’t a team in the West that isn’t a very real potential threat to beat you recently.

Exceptions to the rule. To equate uga owning auburn and being much better than au since that qb rental of 2010 to ole miss beating Bama twice is a bad look for your intellect. Not even remotely similar.