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re: Can Georgia becomes the Alabama of the east?

Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by GenghisKhan
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:10 pm to
Jimbeaux will never have the talent at Aggy as he had at FSU. Notice what Saban did to FSU last fall, he literally broke them!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:30 pm to
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Well now that is a strange thing to say since Georgia finished 13-2 with the 6th Hardest schedule in the country last year.


What was it prior to the SECC and Playoff. If they had lost to ND, they wouldn't have been in the Playoffs even if they won the SECCG.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:50 pm to
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As if the west is full of juggernauts. I mean what tougher schedule is this you speak of?



Every team in the West is better than its east counterpart right now except that Auburn/Georgia are about equal.

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:56 pm to
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Jimbeaux will never have the talent at Aggy as he had at FSU. Notice what Saban did to FSU last fall, he literally broke them!


What happened to FSU on the injury front in that first game, and literally throughout the season, last year further proves the point I made earlier about modern college football literally being a hair away from parity among 5-30 on a weekly basis.

FSU was preseason #2 ... they fell apart after the beating from Bama, lost their coach to A&M and now they are technically rebuilding.

It's another perfect example.

Hell, the fact that FSU is where they are now compared to where they were less than a generation ago is another example that proves my point.

25 years from now most will not recognize the college football landscape. It is fast changing and I will continue to push the fact that the SEC has eight teams that are all capable of winning a national championship in the next 25 years if the bounces were to go their way.

All it takes is a couple of good recruiting classes, a lucky break here and there, great chemistry, the right coach and a favorable schedule and, given today's playoff system it could happen for any of the eight teams in this league mentioned.

The SEC has a HUGE advantage going for it because of our overall rapidly growing recruiting base, our money, our fan support, our facilities and standards and demands within the conference.

The Big12 has none of those on a conference wide scale. The B1G is fast losing its recruiting base due to population shrinkage. The Pac12 is going to suffer similarly as their base in California continues to dwindle. The ACC is our threat for the foreseeable future and, even then, they are no threat provided the SEC continues to make football our main focus and provided we continue to win the overall head-to-head battles.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:57 pm to
Once Smart puts in place the "process" they can. Once they get Emmert on their side and the Chargers start rolling in. They already got the weak schedule in place. That's all Bama needed to come to life after years of average seasons.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Every team in the West is better than its east counterpart right now except that Auburn/Georgia are about equal.

You do realize the oxymoronic nature of your claim, do you not?

If you are comparing Auburn/Georgia then who do you see as Bama's counterpart in the East at this very moment?

Better yet ... break it down, head-to-head.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:07 pm to
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What was it prior to the SECC and Playoff. If they had lost to ND, they wouldn't have been in the Playoffs even if they won the SECCG.




Dude. What difference does it make? You can't carve out partiuclar games to make it fit your narrative. We played the #6 schedule in the country and finished 13-2.



What would Auburn's schedule rank be if we cut out Clemson and Alabama? See how that works? Hint: It doesn't. We played those teams, so they get included.

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If they had lost to ND, they wouldn't have been in the Playoffs even if they won the SECCG.


But Georgia didn't lose to them. If Auburn had lost to Alabama they wouldn't have played in the SECCG. Again. See how your reasoning works? It doesn't. All I can do....and all you can do is deal with reality and facts. The facts are:
1. Georgia beat Notre Dame.
2. Georgia beat Auburn in the SECCG
3. Georgia beat Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl.
4. Oklahoma finished ranked #3 in the country.
5. Georgia played the #6 ranked schedule in the country.

Those are all facts. You can say "what if" all you want to, but it still doesn't change the facts. Nobody was belittling Auburn, so why did you think it was a good idea to come into the thread and start saying "What if Georgia..."?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Every team in the West is better than its east counterpart right now except that Auburn/Georgia are about equal.


The SEC Championship and final records and rankings say otherwise.

Nobody is denying the west is stronger than the east right now, but to think there is a wide gap right now is a mistake. The east is coming on strong, right now. It wasn't too many years ago the west were the bottom dwellers and played second fiddle to the east.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:10 pm to
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Once Smart puts in place the "process" they can. Once they get Emmert on their side and the Chargers start rolling in. They already got the weak schedule in place. That's all Bama needed to come to life after years of average seasons.




Auburn's motto: "If you can't beat them, accuse them of cheating!"

Seems legit considering Auburn's reputation for cheating through their history.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:17 pm to
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But Georgia didn't lose to them. If Auburn had lost to Alabama they wouldn't have played in the SECCG. Again. See how your reasoning works? It doesn't. All I can do....and all you can do is deal with reality and facts. The facts are:
1. Georgia beat Notre Dame.
2. Georgia beat Auburn in the SECCG
3. Georgia beat Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl.
4. Oklahoma finished ranked #3 in the country.
5. Georgia played the #6 ranked schedule in the country.

Those are all facts. You can say "what if" all you want to, but it still doesn't change the facts. Nobody was belittling Auburn, so why did you think it was a good idea to come into the thread and start saying "What if Georgia..."?


Their regular season schedule was such that if they lost to an average ND team, they would have been back in the Citrus Bowl. They played the #6 schedule because of the Playoff and not because of the SECE. OU got the benefit of playing in the Big 12, just like UGA got the benefit of playing in the SECE. Remember their two loses came against SECW teams.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Auburn's motto: "If you can't beat them, accuse them of cheating!"
We beat UGA. Next.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7003 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:29 pm to
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As if the west is full of juggernauts


Compared to any combination of Kentucky, Vandy, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee, the West is absolutely filled with juggernauts. Some of you people have lived under rocks entirely too long and can't even spell reality.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32858 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:33 pm to
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If they had lost to ND, they wouldn't have been in the Playoffs even if they won the SECCG.


If we had beaten Notre Dame and lost the seccg, we would have been out of playoff as well. Thankfully we beat Auburn’s arse down in the seccg and beat Notre Dame instead.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:37 pm to
You mean sister fricking and all? Sure.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Their regular season schedule was such that if they lost to an average ND team, they would have been back in the Citrus Bowl.


Wow. Average Notre Dame team that was ranked one spot below Auburn. I guess that makes Auburn an average team, too? You don't quite seem to understand. You keep playing with "ifs", "ands" and "buts", and seem to forget that Georgia beat Notre Dame. Try living in the real world and leave your fantasy world behind. Georgia won. WE went to the playoffs and Auburn got beat by UCF. Those are the facts. Spin, spin, spin all you want about what could have happened, or would have happened or what might have happened if something that did not happen happened.

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They played the #6 schedule because of the Playoff and not because of the SECE.

Maybe I missed where I said that was the case? I never said it was because of the SECE. And if Auburn's schedule had left off Clemson and the Georgia games, your schedule ranking would have been worse. A LOT worse. You schedule was not ranked highly because of the SEC West. See how that works?

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Remember their two loses came against SECW teams.

I am fully aware of where our losses came from and I am also aware that we beat the third best team in the West and the SEC West Champions. I am also aware we beat the #3 team in the country and went into overtime in the National Championship game. Something Auburn was unable to do the last time they played for the National Championship.

The SECCG broke Auburn fans to such an extent, they simply must live in an alternate universe in which Notre Dame beat Georgia, and Georgia did not go to the playoffs.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:41 pm to
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We lost to UGA when it counted.


FIFY
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32858 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 4:09 pm to
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2002-2003 it would have been OSU, Miami, SoCal and Iowa.


Wrong. Uga was in.

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Here's my argument for parity growing.

There will always be unexpected contenders for slots in the playoffs ... every single year.


Which is how it was with.....

Arizona st. In 1975.
Houston in 1976/79.
Kentucky in 1977.
FSU in 1979.
SMU in 1981/1982.
Clemson in 1981.
Miami in 1983.
BYU in 1984.
Boston college and UF in 1984.
Air Force and uf in 1985.

Point is obvious. Doesn’t look like it’s growing, but is rather similar to how it was a long time ago.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 4:12 pm to
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The SECCG broke Auburn fans to such an extent, they simply must live in an alternate universe in which Notre Dame beat Georgia, and Georgia did not go to the playoffs.


You think that UGA makes the playoff after losing to ND and getting beat by 23 to AU ? Bama and Wisc/OSU would have had a much better argument considering that UGA best regular season win would have been MSU.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 4:24 pm to
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You think that UGA makes the playoff after losing to ND and getting beat by 23 to AU ?


Listen. Very. Carefully. We. didn't. lose. to. Notre Dame.
It doesn't matter. You do realize that they make up the SOS based upon the games you actually play, and not on what might have happened is results were different, right?

You can scream to your neighborhood on top of your house that Georgia would not have gone to the playoffs if Notre Dame had beaten them, but the fact is, Georgia won. period. Accept it. Georgia beat Notre Dame.

Unless you want to talk about what might have happened if Alabama had beaten Auburn, then it is immaterial about what might have happened if Notre dame had beaten Georgia.

I cannot fathom why you keep bringing up what might or might not have happened if we had been beaten by somebody else.

Auburn. Fixated University.






Georgia beat Notre Dame. Apparently you missed it.

Click on this link. It proves georgia beat Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32858 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 4:27 pm to
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You think that UGA makes the playoff after losing to ND and getting beat by 23 to AU ?


No, but Uga gets in with a loss to Notre dame but wins against au in November and Bama in December.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 4:30 pm
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