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re: Can anyone make a rational argument that Auburn should stay in the west?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:32 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:32 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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He first proposed it in 2011 iirc. It is a good idea then and it still is now
And in 2014 the SEC chose to stay with an 8 an game schedule.
I fail to understand why the rest of the conference with the exception of Alabama would have changed their mind in the last 3 yrs?
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:35 pm to RT1941
I've heard bielema has warmed up to the idea of a 9 game schedule, and I'm sure Jacobs will support it if it means auburn can go to the east. As a fan, I've always supported it. I don't think many fans of any sec fan base would oppose to be honest. Hopefully more coaches will change there mind. Certainly won't happen for at least a few years based on their last vote
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:35 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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Two permanent, one rotating. I know it doesn't fix everything. If we want to be able to play everybody very other year or so, we will probably have to abolish divisions all together and make a new scheduling system, like pods.
Or we could move to a 9 game schedule and keep the divisions as they are now and have 2 rotating teams for everyone. Pods are a terrible option from every scenario I've seen over the years. It would work for some schools and wouldn't for others. For instance, the last mock-up I saw had LSU in a pod with A&M, Ole Miss, and State as their permanents. First off, I would never want a schedule where we didn't play Alabama and Florida every year. Second, how fair does that sound to other schools?
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The auburn to the east w/ 9game schedule fixes our situation and doesn't upset bama
Right, it fixes Auburn's "problem" while screwing with 13 other programs
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:39 pm to lsufball19
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Right, it fixes Auburn's "problem" while screwing with 13 other programs
I mean it is our problem. We got screwed by division placement.
Secondly, does it really screw with other teams' schedules..? It's one more east opponent they get to play that they usually wouldn't have played for years. How is that bad?
And it also reduces the wait time for the other teams to once every 5 years instead of the current.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:43 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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We got screwed by division placement.
please explain what you mean by this?
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It's one more east opponent they get to play and that they usually wouldn't have played for years. How is that bad?
how so? The only way to do it would be to go back to having two permanent east opponents and one rotating game, which is exactly what we do now and something everyone else doesn't like. I wouldn't really care to make Kentucky a permanent again to be honest
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And it also reduces the wait time for the other teams to once every 5 years instead of the current.
so one less year, hooray
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:43 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
quote:by one whole year. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
And it also reduces the wait time for the other teams to once every 5 years instead of the current.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:49 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
quote:Reduces it by 1 whole year.
And it also reduces the wait time for the other teams to once every 5 years instead of the current.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:50 pm to lsufball19
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please explain what you mean by this?
3/4 of our traditional sec rivals are in the east. Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee. We only get to play georgia annually.
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The only way to do it would be to go back to having two permanent east opponents and one rotating game, which is exactly what we do now
Right now we only have one permanent cross division opponent, not two. We would have 2 permanent cross div, one rotating. That means 3 total per year. With two permanent opponents, that means there's only five teams remaining. You would play each team every five years instead of six. That's better than now. Like I said, it doesn't make everything perfect, but it is much better than what we currently have, considering more sec games, shorter rotations,better travel for mizzou, auburn and SECe teams.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:52 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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but it is much better than what we currently have,
much better than what we currently have would be going to 9 games and then dropping the permanent opponent completely so it would only take you 2 years to play the whole east instead of 6...or 5
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:54 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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Right now we only have one permanent cross division opponent, not two
we have one permanent cross divison team, which is what I meant by "what we do now."
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You would play each team every five years instead of six. That's better than now.
marginally
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but it is much better than what we currently have
much better no? no. it's better really only for auburn
Plenty of people want a 9 game SEC schedule, but so there are two rotating east teams so we play each other more, not so auburn can move to the east. I think only Auburn wants that
Auburn's campaign to move to the East is completely self-serving and does not benefit anyone other than Auburn, which is why it will never happen.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:57 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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Can anyone make a rational argument that Auburn should stay in the west?
Because they have been in the West since divisions started and the Auburn administration and fans need to quit being raging vaginas about this. You don't get your way just because all of a sudden you decided this is the perceived injustice you feel the need to vocalize.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:57 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
quote:What does one more SEC game really matter to a man sitting at 10-22 in SEC play?
I've heard bielema has warmed up to the idea of a 9 game schedule, and I'm sure Jacobs will support it if it means auburn can go to the east. As a fan, I've always supported it. I don't think many fans of any sec fan base would oppose to be honest. Hopefully more coaches will change there mind. Certainly won't happen for at least a few years based on their last vote
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:59 pm to lsufball19
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much better no? no. it's better really only for auburn
I'm not only referring to scheduling. Auburn in the east makes so much more sense than mizzou. We are nearly directly between Gainesville and knoxville. SECe wouldn't have to travel to mizzou. Mizzou wouldn't have to travel to the east teams.
And your idea of only having rotating opponents would not only get rid of the DSOR, but the TSIO as well. Those rivalries are the reason we have permanent opponents..
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:01 pm to lsufball19
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Plenty of people want a 9 game SEC schedule, but so there are two rotating east teams so we play each other more, not so auburn can move to the east. I think only Auburn wants that
Auburn's campaign to move to the East is completely self-serving and does not benefit anyone other than Auburn, which is why it will never happen.
Ya, there isn't some rule about us having to switch Auburn over to get to the 9 game schedule
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:03 pm to Aman
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Because they have been on the West since divisions started and the Auburn administration and fans need to quit being raging vaginas about this. You don't get your way just because all of a sudden you decided this is the perceived injustice you feel the need to vocalize.
what's funny is they are screaming that Tennessee is a traditional rival. They did play Tennessee 35 straight years. But even after all those games, they have played LSU (51) almost as much as Tennessee (52). They've played Miss State 90 times. It would almost be funny if Auburn did go to the East and were forced to play Alabama and LSU every year from the West.\, along with UT, UGA, and Florida from the East. Would that be a fair compromise for Auburn fans...to move to the East but have to play all 5 of the other Big 6 teams every year?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:04 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
quote:and its bullshite. its stupid that any school in the SEC not named bama, auburn, tennessee, and georgia gets shafted in scheduling all because those four schools fancy their rivalries
Those rivalries are the reason we have permanent opponents..
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:06 pm to lsufball19
Quantity of appearances does not constitute rivalry. MSU, as you used as an example, has a 26-62-2 record against us.
That would literally be perfect. I am sure we would choose lsu as our 2nd permanent. Why would you not want to play those teams?
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It would almost be funny if Auburn did go to the East and were forced to play Alabama and LSU every year from the West.\, along with UT, UGA, and Florida from the East. Would that be a fair compromise for Auburn fans...to move to the East but have to play all 5 of the other Big 6 teams every year?
That would literally be perfect. I am sure we would choose lsu as our 2nd permanent. Why would you not want to play those teams?
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:07 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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SECe wouldn't have to travel to mizzou. Mizzou wouldn't have to travel to the east teams.
Missouri distance from SEC West teams:
Baton Rouge: 761 Miles
College Station: somehow also 761 miles
Tusacloosa: 603 miles
Oxford: 477 miles
Starkville: 547 miles
Fayetteville: 309 miles
Missouri is fricked regardless of what division they're in. Their fans are likely flying everywhere except for Fayetteville
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And your idea of only having rotating opponents would not only get rid of the DSOR, but the TSIO as well. Those rivalries are the reason we have permanent opponents..
No it wouldn't. Keep the divisions as is and add another conference game is what I want. TSIO and DSOR all stay intact, just like they do now and just like they did prior to adding A&M and Missouri. Auburn gets to play UT and Florida much more often, and everyone else also benefits by playing cross division teams more often.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:12 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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That would literally be perfect
It would be perfect until your fans realize playing that schedule every year will kill your postseason expectations more times than not, but by all means for the sake of "traditional rivalries"
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 4:14 pm to AeroSpaceTiger
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Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee.
THEY
DO
NOT
WANT
YAWL
IN
THE
EAST!
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