Started By
Message
Can an opposing NIL collective ink a deal with a player to just not play?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 2/24/24 at 6:46 pm
Does this avoid point shaving laws?
Can an NIL collective pay a rivals star QB with a wink wink that they’ll opt out of a game?
I mean the chance is almost zero this happens but is it technically possible now that the NCAA can’t do shite?
Can an NIL collective pay a rivals star QB with a wink wink that they’ll opt out of a game?
I mean the chance is almost zero this happens but is it technically possible now that the NCAA can’t do shite?
14
Posted on 2/24/24 at 6:52 pm to Hateradedrink
I say yes. But what is more likely is that Blue Bloods will just buy smaller schools and keep players on those rosters to call up if needed, and to your point, play keep away.
This practice will escalate greatly when they put a cap on what university can spend.
This practice will escalate greatly when they put a cap on what university can spend.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:00 pm to IvIerlot
I didn’t even think of that. Crazy. They could pay an NIL with the understand they DONT sign with a school or that they sign with a sun belt school to come up later.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:02 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
Can an opposing NIL collective ink a deal with a player to just not play?
No
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:06 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
Can an opposing NIL collective ink a deal with a player to just not play?
quote:
Does this avoid point shaving laws?
Our schools continue to fail is terribly.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:27 pm to lsufball19
What would the consequences be?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:34 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
What would the consequences be?
Prison possibly
You’re effectively paying to fix a game.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:47 pm to lsufball19
Point shaving to actively control the outcome of a game while it’s ongoing is illegal.
A player not playing, and announcing beforehand, is something everyone knows and players aren’t actively fixing the game. It probably violates the spirit of the law, but does it actually violate the law?
A player not playing, and announcing beforehand, is something everyone knows and players aren’t actively fixing the game. It probably violates the spirit of the law, but does it actually violate the law?
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:00 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
but does it actually violate the law?
Yes. Anti-trust laws
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:02 pm to lsufball19
You think paying a good player to play for your team has a legal distinction from paying a good player to not play for the other one?
When does it stop being the former and start being the latter?
When does it stop being the former and start being the latter?
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:07 pm to Hateradedrink
It’s also bribery. Here’s a federal criminal statute for you
LINK
It’s illegal bud. Move on
LINK
quote:
18 U.S. Code § 224 - Bribery in sporting contests
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a) Whoever carries into effect, attempts to carry into effect, or conspires with any other person to carry into effect any scheme in commerce to influence, in any way, by bribery any sporting contest, with knowledge that the purpose of such scheme is to influence by bribery that contest, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
It’s illegal bud. Move on
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:20 am to lsufball19
I mean, I get that, but failing to see how it’s any different than an NIL program paying a bunch of good players to be walk-ons to keep them away from other schools.
Regardless, it looks like you probably shouldn’t pay opposing players to quit during a season, but there’s nothing wrong with it once the season is over.
Texas could pay oklahomas entire oline to just transfer to the Sun Belt or something. It seems preposterous but it seems possible.
Regardless, it looks like you probably shouldn’t pay opposing players to quit during a season, but there’s nothing wrong with it once the season is over.
Texas could pay oklahomas entire oline to just transfer to the Sun Belt or something. It seems preposterous but it seems possible.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:21 am to lsufball19
quote:
Prison possibly
You’re effectively paying to fix a game.
What
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:52 am to Hateradedrink
quote:
I mean, I get that, but failing to see how it’s any different than an NIL program paying a bunch of good players to be walk-ons to keep them away from other schools.
If you can’t see the difference then I can’t help you
In one situation you’re paying someone to play for your team. In another, you’re paying someone on another team to sit out and not play. It’s very different actually, which is why it’s a felony.
You’re overthinking this. This will nit be a concern of NIL, just like it’s not a concern in professional sports.
quote:
Texas could pay oklahomas entire oline to just transfer to the Sun Belt or something. It seems preposterous but it seems possible.
noThis post was edited on 2/25/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:52 am to jonnyanony
quote:
What
What’s confusing?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:56 am to lsufball19
The voices in his bald head.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:15 pm to lsufball19
quote:
If you can’t see the difference then I can’t help you
Honestly IANAL, but I am struggling here also.
Based on the statute posted, how is paying players to play for you not also bribery?? And why exactly does the "how" explanation only go in one direction?? Additional context please
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:30 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
I mean the chance is almost zero this happens but is it technically possible now that the NCAA can’t do shite?
True, the NCAA is powerless, but DoJ attorneys might not be a fan.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 1:04 pm to lsufball19
quote:
What’s confusing?
It is not fixing a game unless you fix a game. This isn't fixing a game.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 1:09 pm to Hateradedrink
Do you have my Venmo #? If you pay me enough I’ll root for LSU.
Page 1 of 4
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News