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re: Buying stock in SEC programs....

Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:41 pm to
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We'll see how hospitable you are after the Hogs kick that Tiger arse for 3 straight.
Bring it...oh, wait, we go there this year. Which stadium do WE use, again.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:42 pm to
The fact you said Gus Mal runs the spread ended it for me.
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:54 pm to
Rangers that's what he did at Tulsa and highschool. If that's what he did there I'm not sure how much expertise he can have in something totally different. We'll see. Do your research before making an uninformed statement.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 9:58 pm to
Gus Mal has specified he wants some very large offensive linemen. One of the things you will notice AU do over the next year and going forward is recruit larger offensive linemen than we currently have. In general expect 20-30 pound gain across board at each position except the center position.

Gus does not run the spread. Also the spread is a formation please go read up what the "spread" really is. The media tosses the term around far too much as it is the new catch phrase. TTU doesn't run the spread they run an airraid offense that is more aiken to the run and shoot with some changes. Meyer doesn't run the spread as much as people think contrary to popular belief.

Go talk with Christ at smartfootball.com before making a blanket statement.
Posted by Dan
Austin
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:00 pm to
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You're a damn fool if you guarantee ANY SEC gamewill be a win.


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We'll see how hospitable you are after the Hogs kick that Tiger arse for 3 straight


Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:01 pm to
bcshog you do not know that he brought in a better recruiting class than Nutt ever. Pelphrey brought in the 16th ranked class and 4 of the 6 are no longer on the squad. so that 16th a year later is about 200th.

When you buy in to the star system for your recruiting conclusion you have to understand it's put in place to sell subscriptions and make money. If you compile the best rating of the 3 services of each player Nutt had by far a better 09 class than Petrino. If you subtract the juco's which won't be here by 2011 the bulk of the class doesn't look alot different than Nutt's 99 class that did win the west as upperclassmen. A new coach's first full class is usually stronger than the last few of the old coaches every where. Check your history some time and post some logic.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:06 pm to
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Gus does not run the spread.

Uhh. I believe he does.
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:10 pm to
Rangers, Gus is stating that b/c that is what Chizic wants. Chizic was forced to hire a coach that has a contradictory style to his. What I would consider a spread is basing the linemen a yard apart and keeping 3 to 5 wide outs and the QB working exclusively out of the shot gun many times with empty backfield. That's the gimmick that got Malzhan in to the college game so it will be interesting to see how he can mesh with Chiz. Remember, Malzhan recruited Kodi Burns hard to Arkansas 3 year ago and isn't it funny how Kodi is one of the worst Qb's the SEC has ever seen? He was good in the highschool spread though. That's what you are in for with Malzhan , bud.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:14 pm to
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is stating that b/c that is what Chizic wants. Chizic was forced to hire a coach that has a contradictory style to his. What I would consider a spread is basing the linemen a yard apart and keeping 3 to 5 wide outs and the QB working exclusively out of the shot gun many times with empty backfield. That's the gimmick that got Malzhan in to the college game so it will be interesting to see how he can mesh with Chiz.



Yeah, a spread pretty much means you spread the defense out.
You can do many things out of the spread. (Tulsa ran for tons of yards last year out of it) You can run 80% of the time, but if spread the wr's and o-line out, and take snaps out of the shotgun, you're running a spread offense. I think Malzahn is a brilliant coach, but to say he doesn't run a spread shows that you don't understand what a spread is.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:15 pm to
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Uhh. I believe he does.


Gus runs the spread formation less than 8% of the time. His offense is described as the spread because the media is full of idiots that have no clue about formations and what an offense really is.

Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:16 pm to
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Gus runs the spread formation less than 8% of the time. His offense is described as the spread because the media is full of idiots that have no clue about formations and what an offense really is.



The spread isn't a formation, it's a style of play.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:16 pm to
I go long in:

Alabama
LSU (devalued after last year)
Ole Miss (for a year, than a sell)
Georgia
Arkansas

I sell short:

Florida (no where to go but down)
Miss. State
South Carolina
Tennessee (Kiffen, nough said)


I don't touch:

Kentucky
Vandy
Auburn (too many ??)

Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:18 pm to
well we will see what he runs this year. He may be planning on doing something different. Chizic is going to be a traditional run first physical smash mouth coach. That's not what Malzhan has traditionally done.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:18 pm to
This was posted by WRT on onther thread.

"SWC went out of business. Integration was what ultimately forced it out of business".

That tells you all you need to know about any of his/her posts.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:21 pm to
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That tells you all you need to know about any of his/her posts.

I think WRT is Donna Bragg.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:22 pm to
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I think WRT is Donna Bragg.


Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:22 pm to
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Rangers, Gus is stating that b/c that is what Chizic wants. Chizic was forced to hire a coach that has a contradictory style to his. What I would consider a spread is basing the linemen a yard apart and keeping 3 to 5 wide outs and the QB working exclusively out of the shot gun many times with empty backfield. That's the gimmick that got Malzhan in to the college game so it will be interesting to see how he can mesh with Chiz. Remember, Malzhan recruited Kodi Burns hard to Arkansas 3 year ago and isn't it funny how Kodi is one of the worst Qb's the SEC has ever seen? He was good in the highschool spread though. That's what you are in for with Malzhan , bud.



Kodi was recruited by Gus because he was considered to be one of the top QBs that year. Remember he was a 4 start QB and considered borderline 5 star. That said the problem with Kodi has been the fact he didn't have the necessary work ethic and a solid QB coach. He didn't spend enough time doing drills with the receivers nor did he spend time in the film room like he should have and it hurt him.

Gus has specifically stated he wants heavier offensive linemen particularly at the tackle position to be forceful and run the ball hardcore. Gus runs a 2 back set in most of his offense. Gus runs an offense similar to what Auburn did in 2004 and got away from for some reason in later seasons. in 2004 when AU passed the ball it went for nearly 15 yards, the reason for this was teams stacked the box to stop our running game and we burnt them deep. Gus states he wants to go deep at least 8 times per game this will force defenses to keep a safety deep and if Benton steps up keep two safeties deep.

Sorry but Gus doesn't run the spread, contrary to popular opinion. Meyer doesn't run it anymore either. Meyer has changed his offense heavily since his first season, especially after LSU blitzed him to death when he had no pass protection with the QB.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:24 pm to
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well we will see what he runs this year. He may be planning on doing something different. Chizic is going to be a traditional run first physical smash mouth coach. That's not what Malzhan has traditionally done.


Chizik has mentioned he wants to model Auburn similar to what Brown has done at Texas and SToops has done at OU. He wants a strong aggressive offense coupled with a strong defense. That traditionally is tough to do so we shall see how he runs that ragged edge style of play but it is much better than our last 3 years.
Posted by FootballHog
Member since Nov 2006
7694 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:26 pm to
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I think WRT is Donna Bragg.


Hey WRT

I'd bone the frick out of Donna.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26140 posts
Posted on 7/26/09 at 10:30 pm to
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I'd bone the frick out of Donna.

Me too. In a heartbeat.
I'm proud that HDN got to bust a Nutt on that.
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