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re: Bridge Schedules explained

Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:38 pm to
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Do I have anything to back up my theory? No, but neither do you but it doesn't stop you from posting it as fact.


It is a fact that Alabama had four SEC West home games.

It is a fact that Texas A&M had two SEC West home games.

It is a fact that the rest of the SEC had three division home games.

It is a fact that division record is a tie breaker.

It is a fact that in 2013, every team now has three division home games.

It is a fact that Mizzou had played at Kyle Field two years in a row, and wanted to play the next game in Columbia.

It is a fact that all of these things could have been avoided.

It is a fact that the SEC offices are in Birmingham.

It is a fact that you haven't offered me any sort of explanation as to why Alabama needed 4 home games.

It is a fact that you simply have no explanation for it.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:39 pm to
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Your posting style is more like an art form.


I like you.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:40 pm to
I love how everyone is turning the light on the shady scheduling going on in Burmingham. The Bammers are sweating bullets.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:46 pm to
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If Bama had played at CS in '12, then that would have given Bama 5 SEC road games and 3 home games.


You are assuming that. That is not the truth. Mizzou simply plays Alabama in Tuscaloosa, A&M plays Mizzou in Columbia, and Alabama plays at Kyle. Which was originally the plan. Or is that too confusing for you?
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:46 pm to
It is a fact that Alabama was National Champion and pre-season top 5 entering the 2012 season.

It is a fact that A&M was 7-6 in 2011 and had lost to Arkansas

It is a fact that A&M had a new coach, new offensive system, and new starting QB

It is a fact that A&M was unranked in the preseason

It is a fact that SEC coaches picked A&M to finish in the middle of the SEC West

It is a fact that Florida like A&M went 7-6 in 2011

It is a fact (possibly ) that the SEC office wanted A&M and Mizzou to each have high profile cross-division home games

It is a fact that if Bama played at CS, then that would've have given Bama 5 SEC road games versus 3 SEC home games

I'd go on, but I've got to meet some friends to watch some baseball. Maybe we'll pick this back up later.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:47 pm to
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Or is that too confusing for you?


What part of "high profile cross-division home game" confuses you?
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
56988 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

It is a fact that Alabama had four SEC West home games.

It is a fact that Texas A&M had two SEC West home games.

It is a fact that the rest of the SEC had three division home games.

It is a fact that division record is a tie breaker.

It is a fact that in 2013, every team now has three division home games.

It is a fact that Mizzou had played at Kyle Field two years in a row, and wanted to play the next game in Columbia.

It is a fact that all of these things could have been avoided.

It is a fact that the SEC offices are in Birmingham.

It is a fact that you haven't offered me any sort of explanation as to why Alabama needed 4 home games.

It is a fact that you simply have no explanation for it.






I'm tired as hell of all the complaining and schedule talk going on, but this mist be acknowledged



Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:57 pm to
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What part of "high profile cross-division home game" confuses you?


It doesn't confuse me, it is just stupid. If Slive, as a mastermind of equity, and wanting to open up a game against a high profile opponent, and also make them go on the road against one... Why would it make any difference if it was divisional or not? Especially if there was an implicit focus on "cross-division" it makes the inequity in division home games even more ludicrous because they would at that point be purposefully exploiting the number of games in Alabama's favor Day 1. Why didn't LSU or Florida get 4 division home games? And why isn't Alabama having 2 division home games this year? They are getting Ole Miss at home again to even it out... in a bridge.

At least with my truthful explanation, Alabama exploited their power late jn the process. Your world has them more culpable. Which is the most ironic part.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

It is a fact that Alabama had four SEC West home games. It is a fact that Texas A&M had two SEC West home games. It is a fact that the rest of the SEC had three division home games. It is a fact that division record is a tie breaker. It is a fact that in 2013, every team now has three division home games. It is a fact that Mizzou had played at Kyle Field two years in a row, and wanted to play the next game in Columbia. It is a fact that all of these things could have been avoided. It is a fact that the SEC offices are in Birmingham. It is a fact that you haven't offered me any sort of explanation as to why Alabama needed 4 home games. It is a fact that you simply have no explanation for it.



It is a fact no one gives a flying shite. Y'all went 11-2, lost to 2 tough teams, and beat the DNC on the road. Is that anything to bitch about? Don't bitch when you're blessed.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:13 pm to
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WE IN Y'ALLS HEADS


If my laughing at the whining LSU schedule threads means you're in my head then you're doing it wrong.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:21 pm to
I'm not sure why it matters how many division home/away games a school has as long as the overall is 4/4. Long term it makes scheduling harder which is why we are moving away from it, but all games count in the standings anyway. The effect is incredibly slight at best
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

It is a fact no one gives a flying shite. Y'all went 11-2, lost to 2 tough teams, and beat the DNC on the road. Is that anything to bitch about? Don't bitch when you're blessed.


Obviously gumps do. A gump started this thread. Part of your extreme arrogance and entitlement is your complete denial of anything that would diminish your perceived greatness. Tweaking the schedule in your favor obviously fits that profile, or y'all wouldn't get so upset at the accusation. So what... Bama cheated. Had they had a more difficult schedule this year, they probably wouldn't have been in the Natty, and if they had LSU's schedule in 2013 they would be staring 4 losses straight in the face. So what do they do? Avoid all difficult opponents, force them on LSU and schedule their toughest game as early as possible after a bye so they have all off season to prepare. Why aren't you proud of your cheating ways? What y'all have done with scheduling is brilliant.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

The simple truth lost in all of this is that the division title runs through tuscaloosa in the west. If you want it, then beat us


Didn't TAM beat Bama at Bama last year?

You need to ask TAM; how that worked out for them last year?

Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:34 pm to
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It is a fact that Alabama was National Champion and pre-season top 5 entering the 2012 season.


So they earned the right to play cupcakes? Is that how the Cult spins it?

None of the rest justifies Bama getting cupcake East teams two years in a row. Unless of course you are Bama fan and preferential treatment is due to you?
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:50 pm to
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So they earned the right to play cupcakes? Is that how the Cult spins it?


I was listing facts to support my theory that Sumlin had asked the SEC office to move the Bama-A&M game because he was scared of getting blown out at home in his first big game as A&M coach the same way that another poster had listed facts supporting his theory that Saban had begged for the game to be changed.

Of course, neither theory is likely true. The most plausible explanation is that the game was moved to allows Mizzou to host a high profile cross-division game in year 1 like A&M hosting UF
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43150 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:29 pm to
I am sure there will be other topics I will disagree with you about but you are nailing this one. And I usually stay out of these scheduling threads but that is very good analysis in your posts. Kudos.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71471 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:32 pm to
nvm I'll play nice
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

How were the teams picked to play A&M and Mizzou each year? That I don't know although one theory is that the SEC Office wanted A&M and Mizzou to each host high profile cross-division opponents their first season in the league.


Since they are supposedly hoping to build Arkie-Mizzou as a new rivalry, the obvious choice was to get that started right away, with a game against each other in the first year.

It is what it is. Alabama got to avoid their entire rotation with Georgia just when Georgia had one of their better teams. LSU got SC and Florida when they were both 11-game winners, and now we get Georgia and Florida when they are both leading candidates to win the East. Alabama gets the two teams that combined to go 1-15 in the SEC last year, with that one win coming when they played each other and someone had to win.

I'm sure it was perfectly innocent and only a coincidence that just happened to be the difference in the SEC West race last year. If A&M and LSU didn't play Florida but got to have an easy game with Tennessee instead, it's a three-way tie at 7-1, with each team 1-1 against the other two.

And of course this year, with four consensus preseason top ten teams on our conference schedule, and only two on Alabama's (assuming LSU is consensus top ten preseason), it's another unbalanced and unfair race.

Sure, we could have taken care of things against Alabama last year, but we didn't. That's what happens when you play really good teams--sometimes you lose. In the 2012 regular season (which decided the division title) Alabama lost half their games against the SEC's top six, just like LSU did. It helps when you only have to play half as many.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

It is a fact that Alabama had four SEC West home games.

It is a fact that Texas A&M had two SEC West home games.

It is a fact that the rest of the SEC had three division home games.

It is a fact that division record is a tie breaker.

It is a fact that in 2013, every team now has three division home games.

It is a fact that Mizzou had played at Kyle Field two years in a row, and wanted to play the next game in Columbia.

It is a fact that all of these things could have been avoided.

It is a fact that the SEC offices are in Birmingham.

It is a fact that you haven't offered me any sort of explanation as to why Alabama needed 4 home games.

It is a fact that you simply have no explanation for it.




It's a fact that you're suddenly becoming a disappointment to a weak A&M fanbase on this site, when before you were the strength.
Posted by sdmlsu1
up n dis bish
Member since Nov 2007
701 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:59 pm to
Of the scheduling threads I've seen lately this has some good points. Unfortunately threads with good info runs people off.
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