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re: Brian Kelly's buyout is 62MM

Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by AggieArchitect2004
Member since Oct 2023
2045 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:25 pm to
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And you pretend to be an Alpha Architect former high school football star?

Don’t have to pretend. I am those things.

This has been funny (and kinda weird) but I'm getting bored now so I’m going to watch a replay of last night’s game.

Hope your night gets better.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19571 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:28 pm to
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conference championship game


notre dame doesn't have these, just fyi
Posted by LeadingTiger
In the walls of tiger stadium
Member since Aug 2022
894 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:29 pm to
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Because Kelly does this every year? We need an old TAMU roller coaster meme for LSU.

I bet most auburn fans would rather go on the lsu rollercoaster than whatever the hell you call auburn football nowadays
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:53 pm to
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notre dame doesn't have these, just fyi


Notre Dame and Brian Kelly played in the 2020 ACC championship game. They lost. And they certainly have one every year in the SEC.

Brian Kelly has won none of them.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:56 pm to
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Notre Dame and Brian Kelly played in the 2020 ACC championship game. They lost. And they certainly have one every year in the SEC.

Brian Kelly has won none of them.


No other coach in the SEC has either, outside of Kirby.
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
3385 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:48 am to
I hear Billy Napier may be available after this season.
I actually think he has the program moving in the right direction.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16957 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:57 am to
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I literally don’t understand why after a game for 1st place in the SEC, opposing fans are talking about coaches like he is on the hot seat?


I have guaranteed another loss for LSU against Florida. Circle that one for your record. You can bookmark this and it will come out golden when the final score is revealed.
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
3385 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 2:13 am to
That game was pretty funny watch especially when the field goal holder was hit in the head with the ball with his head turned.
He will always be remembered for that lol
Just 1 mistake out of many
Kelly has a good team but they seem to lose focus.
I’m not sure if LSU can beat Bama from what I saw but maybe you will.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
2828 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:31 am to
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This has become a confirmation bias talking point.

When BK wins, it wasn't that great of a team. It only becomes a "big game" if he loses.

It's an interesting dynamic.


This will be exactly how the Bama game goes.

In reality, it's a huge loser leaves town game/playoff elimination game, but if Kelly wins, it'll be a whole lot of "meh, it's a win over a 3 loss Bama team that lost to Vandy."
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
2828 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:41 am to
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And yes, BK should have absolutely had them prepared to face him. That's what separates Saban, Kirby, Meyer, etc. from the rest of the pack.....they think preparation is nearly as damn important as the game itself.


The closest thing I could think of with Marcel Reed vs LSU was Jordan Jefferson coming in and running the option vs Bama in 2011. I guess Saban is a horrible head coach for not having prepared for Jefferson in that game.

All coaches and teams have games like LSU did on Saturday. It's football and it happens.

It doesn't help that LSU was in horrible field position after each of the 3 INTs.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:31 am to
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No other coach in the SEC has either, outside of Kirby.


I assure you, there are other coaches than Kirby Smart who have won a conference championship game, NY6 bowl or playoff game. The list of current SEC coaches who have done so is:

Kirby Smart
Josh Heupel
Lane Kiffin
Kalen Deboer
Steve Sarkisian

Despite having the longest career of any current SEC coach, Brian Kelly has not.

That is why fans don’t think he is a great coach.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:42 am to
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I assure you, there are other coaches than Kirby Smart who have won a conference championship game, NY6 bowl or playoff game. The list of current SEC coaches who have done so is:

Kirby Smart
Josh Heupel
Lane Kiffin
Kalen Deboer
Steve Sarkisian

Despite having the longest career of any current SEC coach, Brian Kelly has not.


I was responding to the SEC championship comment.

I'm quite confident that Kelly would have won many of the matchups that those coaches won.

Texas last year with an atrocious pass defense? Heck yes.
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
16135 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:44 am to
Yep a big arse waste of money! Kelly is either incompetent or simply doesn’t care anymore. The fact that he didn’t prepare the team for the possibility of Reed coming in the game is total incompetence. It sucks but we are stuck with him. Kelly is definitely a fraud !
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
2828 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:55 am to
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there are other coaches than Kirby Smart who have won a conference championship game, NY6 bowl or playoff game.


Adding NY6 bowl, here, to get Heupel and Kiffin included is comical. If you didn't win Conference or make playoff, who cares.

Kind of hard to win a Conference Championship when for majority of career at Notre Dame, he was not part of a Conference.

Kelly did win the Big East twice before moving on to Notre Dame.

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:58 am to
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I'm quite confident that Kelly would have won many of the matchups that those coaches won.


I am absolutely certain that Kelly did not win any of the matchups he actually did have.

Your whole argument for why Kelly is great is 9 win consistency (except for his 4-8 season at Notre Dame) and hypotheticals about what he might have done at other schools or what he might do in the future.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:59 am to
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Your whole argument for why Kelly is great is 9 win consistency (except for his 4-8 season at Notre Dame) and hypotheticals about what he might have done at other schools or what he might do in the future.


That's all we have for any coach.

His win percentage and hypotheticals.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:17 pm to
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If you didn't win Conference or make playoff, who cares.


Coaches who have never won one.

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Kelly did win the Big East twice before moving on to Notre Dame.


And he did so without winning a conference championship game.

Brian Kelly has had a lot of success. He just has never had success in important post season games.

How many people do you think remember 2008 Cincinnati winning the Big East? How many people do you think remember the 2012 BCS championship game between Notre Dame/Alabama?

The fact of the matter is what a coach is remembered by is largely their post season success. Or lack there of. The biggest postseason win for Brian Kelly in his 22 years as a D-1 head coach is either the Sun Bowl or Citrus Bowl.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:27 pm to
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How many people do you think remember 2008 Cincinnati winning the Big East? How many people do you think remember the 2012 BCS championship game between Notre Dame/Alabama?

The fact of the matter is what a coach is remembered by is largely their post season success. Or lack there of. The biggest postseason win for Brian Kelly in his 22 years as a D-1 head coach is either the Sun Bowl or Citrus Bowl.


You talk a lot about "people remembering" here, perception isn't reality.

Your perception is BK is a bad coach because he hasn't won a NY6 bowl, NY6 bowls don't even matter today.

You trash BK for not winning a conference championship game in 22 years when he's only been in a conference with a championship game in 3 of those seasons.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15485 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:35 pm to
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That's all we have for any coach.

His win percentage and hypotheticals.


No, it most certainly is not. You also have championship and post season wins. The reason people say Nick Saban is the greatest coach of all time is not just his winning percentage. Frank Leahy, Urban Meyer, Barry Switzer, Tom Osborne, General Neyland, and Bud Wilkinson all have better career winning percentages than do Nick Saban or Bear Bryant. It is the number of national championships they won that set them apart. Nothing hypothetical about that.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:36 pm to
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No, it most certainly is not. You also have championship and post season wins. The reason people say Nick Saban is the greatest coach of all time is not just his winning percentage. Frank Leahy, Urban Meyer, Barry Switzer, Tom Osborne, General Neyland, and Bud Wilkinson all have better career winning percentages than do Nick Saban or Bear Bryant. It is the number of national championships they won that set them apart. Nothing hypothetical about that.


I'm not talking in terms of legacy, I'm talking about a current coach in terms of predicting future success.
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