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re: Brian Kelly can’t say that he loves beating Georgia.

Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:09 am to
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:09 am to
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That's why I said I was just going off of rankings.


Lol move those goalposts.


Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7613 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:12 am to
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Would you have said this about Bobby Bowden as well?


Yeah.

At 61 he was finishing a 4 year stretch where FSU had finished 2nd, 3rd, 3rd and 4th. He had established himself as a coach who regularly was in the mix for a national title. His team had lost 6 games in those 4 seasons.

We knew what he was at that point.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7613 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:15 am to
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You can't just write Kelly off of the class when the majority of it committed while he was the head coach.


You kind of can. We've seen coaches leave before where the class disintegrates as the players leave. While you can't necessarily judge the new coach's recruiting ability negatively by a bad first class, you can judge it positively if he retains the majority of the transition class and adds to it.

That's what Kirby Smart was able to do at UGA in his first year... it's a very good sign for a new coach to do well in transition.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66181 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:17 am to
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Yeah.

At 61 he was finishing a 4 year stretch where FSU had finished 2nd, 3rd, 3rd and 4th. He had established himself as a coach who regularly was in the mix for a national title. His team had lost 6 games in those 4 seasons.

We knew what he was at that point.


Yet he'd never won a title.

I'm sure there were people saying he was a great coach, just can't get it done.

And he didn't even change jobs like Kelly has.

Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:40 am to
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SidewalkTiger


So now you think Kelly will win a title? Evidence suggests otherwise.


Oh and Freeman is doing a better job at recruiting, so you were still wrong about that.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66181 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:43 am to
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So now you think Kelly will win a title? Evidence suggests otherwise.



I have no clue, the last 3 head coaches did so it seems he will at least have a shot.

Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:00 am to
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I have no clue, the last 3 head coaches did so it seems he will at least have a shot.


And 31 years suggest he won't.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66181 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:03 am to
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And 31 years suggest he won't.


Whatever makes you feel better

As an LSU fan, I think he has at least a good chance and I don't know of anyone who would've been a better hire.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:13 am to
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Whatever makes you feel better ?

As an LSU fan, I think he has at least a good chance and I don't know of anyone who would've been a better hire



Keep on wishing.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:19 am to
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So now you think Kelly will win a title? Evidence suggests otherwise.

The same could be said for Les Miles and Ed Orgeron.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:24 am to
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The same could be said for Les Miles and Ed Orgeron.

Do you lump Kelly in with the Ed Orgerons, Jumbo Fishers, and Gene Chiziks?

Coaches who fall into national championships because of their Heisman QBs?
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:31 am to
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The same could be said for Les Miles and Ed Orgeron.


I mean not really, Miles was a coach for only a few years before LSU, not 31.

Orgeron sure, but I don't think Kelly will get the combo of Brady and Burrow.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66181 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:38 am to
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Keep on wishing


You too
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:45 am to
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Coaches who fall into national championships because of their Heisman QBs?

"Fall in"

Such a lazy argument. Who do you think recruits those guys to get then to campus? Every other school in the country had an opportunity to get them.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:46 am to
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I don't think Kelly will get the combo of Brady and Burrow.

I'm sure you didn't think Orgeron would either.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:52 am to
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Fall in"

Such a lazy argument.

So you aspire for Kelly to be the next orgeron, chizik, and fisher.
Those are your ideal standards for coaching.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
4006 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:58 am to
You have no idea just how loaded LSU is this coming year. You guys are not head and shoulders above every other program in this conference.
If ignorance was bliss you dawgs would live in Utopia!
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:02 am to
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So you aspire for Kelly to be the next orgeron, chizik, and fisher.

No. Kelly has proven to be able to build a program and now he has more money, better facilities and a better recruiting base than he's ever had. That's on top of his national recruiting ties that he already has.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:06 am to
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You too


Don't need to, we already have an elite championship coach unlike LSU.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:07 am to
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now he has more money, better facilities and a better recruiting base than he's ever had.

Why did orgeron fail again?
Hell... why is fisher failing at A&M?
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