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re: Brian Kelly Can't Recruit

Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:18 am to
Posted by vholley50
Midland City,Al
Member since Nov 2013
263 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:18 am to
Yep, He WILL go 10-3 or 9-4 every year.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78848 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:31 am to
Brian Kelly inherited an absolute dumpster fire that was 11-12 in the two previous years and had 38 scholarship players.

In 2 years, he is 20-7, won an SEC West title, beat Bama at home, won two bowl games, had a Heisman winner, had the top offense in college football, locked down Louisiana recruiting, flipped four Aggies we wanted in the 2024 class with another on the way, has the top player in the 2025 class along with the top receiver and running back, used the portal well, got rid of the defensive coaching deadwood, cherry-picked assistant coaches from other SED schools, and has LSU poised for a great few years.

I see why LSU haters are melting down.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:45 am to
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The UGA qb commit,Raiola says hello.


Did Underwood’s dad play at Michigan? Does he have an uncle on staff that we don’t know about? Michigan has already proven they won’t open up the piggy bank as far as LSU.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:48 am to
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All that talent only to go 9-4.


That record should seem familiar to a UT fan.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:52 am to
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Let’s not pretend 10 win seasons means you’re elite. This isn’t 1998.


It’s a pretty good start considering the situation Kelly walked into after O stopped giving a shite. See UF and Auburn for how a rebuild can go a lot less smoothly than this one has in years one and two.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:54 am to
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Ten win seasons get you fired at UGA. Don’t believe it? Ask Mark Richt


You guys certainly took your time with that one.
Posted by TexasTiger_08
Texas
Member since Dec 2021
871 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:59 am to
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I imagine they will change their mind now that the OC left.


Two of them committed AFTER Denbrock left. So no..
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9050 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:05 am to
12 months prior, 2025 recruiting champs. Go Tigahs!!!!
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8320 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:06 am to
"my program pays more than yours"

should be the title to this post
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9050 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:06 am to
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You guys certainly took your time with that one.


Pretty sure if Kelly can win the conference twice in his first five seasons, he'll have a longer leash.

He's one behind already. Richt did it in year two.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:19 pm to
Do you think Les and EdO were better coaches than CBK?
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:24 pm to
NEVER said he was. Just comparing coaches records.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:28 pm to
Thank you sir. That's even better
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:30 pm to
He got fired because he quit on his team and fanbase. Too many off field distractions.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:33 pm to
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If that's true then surely his predecessor or successor performed better.



You don't think any coaches before Brian Kelly did better at ND?

Lou Holz
Ara Parseghian
Knute Rockne
Frank Leahy

All came before Brian Kelly. Holz's last season was only a few years before Kelly came on the scene.

Just a thumbnail sketch of Holz:It can be argued that Holtz coached the golden era of Notre Dame football. In his third season, he led the program to a perfect 11-0 record and the Fiesta Bowl where they won the national championship against West Virginia. Holtz was named the 1988 coach of the year. All in all, Holtz finished his Notre Dame career with a .765 winning percentage, led the team to nine major bowl games in 11 seasons, went 32-20-2 against ranked teams, and in five of the 11 seasons he coached, Notre Dame finished in the top six in the AP poll. He sent 74 players to the NFL and coached 10 All-Americans.


I would say that beat Kelly. Has Kelly won a major bowl game? What is his record against ranked teams? How many times has Kelly finished in the top 6?

Holz was better. I mean, yeah. I get it that they did not have any success in between Holz and Kelly, but that was mainly because they made poor hiring choices. None of the coaches were successful after leaving ND and none were successful at a major university before ND.

As for his successor? Seriously? Ok. He has gone 9-4 and 9-3. Kelly has gone 10-3 and 10-4. Looks pretty even to me.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52961 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:00 pm to
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All came before Brian Kelly. Holz's last season was only a few years before Kelly came on the scene.


Like 15 years

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As for his successor? Seriously? Ok. He has gone 9-4 and 9-3. Kelly has gone 10-3 and 10-4. Looks pretty even to me


I mean if you leave out the fact that Kelly took over a .500 team and Freeman took over a playoff contender, then yeah, they're pretty even.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 6:45 am to
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Like 15 years



That qualifies as a predecessor, right? I mean, you act like 15 years is a lifetime. It isn't. LSU went 45 years in between titles at one point. (1958-2003) and 12 years in between another title. (2007-2019) Did that mean LSU was incapable of winning another title or was somehow a bad program? My guess is no, that is not what it meant.

(Georgia went 42 years in between. We got the right coach and all of a sudden we won two straight.)

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I mean if you leave out the fact that Kelly took over a .500 team and Freeman took over a playoff contender, then yeah, they're pretty even.
Wait. I thought ND had no won a major bowl game in 30 years and was not a good team. Now, all of a sudden those results are ok since Kelly was the coach?

For the record, I think Kelly is a good coach and while he might not be a great recruiter, he does not have to be. He seems to get a lot out of his players. Not every coach is going to recruit like a Saban or Smart. Kelly had 12 years at ND. If he was that great coach he would have won at least a major bowl. He is a good coach. A solid coach. He may even win a title at LSU. But he is not a great coach.

Hey. In his third year at ND he played for the National Championship. Maybe he will do the same with LSU. You have a great offense, and it looks as if he is taking steps to improve the defense. If he has a fault, he seems to be overly loyal to coaches who underperform. (Maybe last seasons failure on defense has cured him of that)
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