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Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:56 am to JustGetItRight
Maybe. I haven't gotten into the elements of each of the charges yet. I was just going by the way they were pleaded.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:57 am to JustGetItRight
Or he has agreed to cooperate and isn't a flight risk.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:57 am to JustGetItRight
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I'm not a lawyer and I don't see much federal stuff, but the way I understand it that's a key component to some of the charges. The actor has to put the federal funds recipient at risk. Him just taking money to steer a kid puts him personally at risk, but not the institution. When he passed along the bribe money to the kids, it put Auburn at risk of financial loss through NCAA and SEC fines and penalties - thus checking off the second box.
I believe you are correct in that assumption. I will add that taking money isnt the only thing that can cause a player to be ineligible in this case. Not saying bama's player will be deemed so, but even if he or family didnt take money he can be ruled ineligible
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:58 am to JChatham
I know I also read that the "the father of a highly regarded incoming freshman basketball player at Staff Member-1's university." was present at an Aug meeting.At that meeting, the adviser allegedly gave Michel about $10,000 to give to Staff Member-1. In all, the complaint says Staff Member-1 received about $25,000 as an incentive to participate in the scheme. So the father is present and that is validated by FBI. How ironic is it that it's possible "the player" didn't know his father was trying to sell his services??
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:58 am to nicholastiger
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LSU basketball or football does not have an associate AD title for that specific sport
Is Moffit not also considered a football staff member? He's listed as an associate AD in that very link. Your communications guy is listed for football too.
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Michael Bonnette Assoc. AD/Communications (FB, SB) (@LSUBonnette)
Tommy Moffitt Assistant AD/ Strength & Conditioning (@TommyMoffitt)
The point is, it is a blanket title. Some programs have them all under the AD. Some in specific sports.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 9:01 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:59 am to MickeyZofko
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I know I also read that the "the father of a highly regarded incoming freshman basketball player at Staff Member-1's university." was present at an Aug meeting.At that meeting, the adviser allegedly gave Michel about $10,000 to give to Staff Member-1. In all, the complaint says Staff Member-1 received about $25,000 as an incentive to participate in the scheme. So the father is present and that is validated by FBI. How ironic is it that it's possible "the player" didn't know his father was trying to sell his services??
Stand by for Cam Newton arguments
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:59 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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Why does the dollar amount keep changing? And no, I'm not reading all that...TIA
I think the amount's $15k. The only question is was it in one lump sum or in two payments.
The way I understand it, he got $5k initially and then $10k at the next meeting. The FBI doc specifically says he pocketed the $10k but doesn't mention what happened to the $5k - leading to speculation that he gave it to Sexton.
It could be that he pocketed it and the FBI just didn't mention it. It could be that he gave it to Sexton. It could be that the FBI doesn't really know what he did with it.
At the moment, where it goes from here is anyone's guess.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:59 am to AU24
Change title to "As the Capstone Crumbles" pls 
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:01 am to NYCAuburn
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I will add that taking money isnt the only thing that can cause a player to be ineligible in this case. Not saying bama's player will be deemed so, but even if he or family didnt take money he can be ruled ineligible
Agreed. Just focusing on the money because that's what gets eveyone's attention.
Sexton's future as a college basketball player is very much hanging by a thread.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:04 am to HailToTheChiz
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Stand by for Cam Newton arguments
The amount of irony in this whole thing is overwhelming.
We may end up using the Cam argument and, as Tuscaloosa pointed out the day the story broke, Auburn may end up getting burned by a suit salesman.
Alanis Morissette could fix her lyrics by just using this episode as a source.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:06 am to JustGetItRight
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JustGetItRight
Thanks
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:10 am to JustGetItRight
quote:CW1 apparently gave SM1 $5k in the first meeting. In the second meeting, CW1 gave suit guy 10k to give to SM1. In third meeting CW1 gave Suit guy another 10k to give to SM1. Suit guy claims he paid SM1 approximately 20k.
I think the amount's $15k. The only question is was it in one lump sum or in two payments.
The way I understand it, he got $5k initially and then $10k at the next meeting. The FBI doc specifically says he pocketed the $10k but doesn't mention what happened to the $5k - leading to speculation that he gave it to Sexton.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 9:14 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:12 am to LSUlax17
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And let me guess, we're supposed to believe that this was only for basketball and not football?
Well, basketball is a much more rapid ROI for these agents. It's easy to identify the kids who are going to be 1st round or lottery picks. You funnel money to, or at minimum develop relationship with, that kid for 9 months and you get a return on investment.
In football you start those relationships after sophomore season. I'm sure agents are funneling money to players all over, including at Bama, but no way they're doing it to LSU. Guys like Fournette, Adams, Peterson, Mathieu, etc would never have been targeted by an agent.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:13 am to JustGetItRight
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We may end up using the Cam argument and, as Tuscaloosa pointed out the day the story broke, Auburn may end up getting burned by a suit salesman.
This is a hell of a bonding experience
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:15 am to PearlJam
quote:So the total the Alabama Staffer for paid was around 25k assuming the suit guy really have him the money he was supposed to give him.
CW1 apparently gave SM1 $5k in the first meeting. In the second meeting, CW1 gave suit guy 10k to give to SM1. In third meeting CW1 gave Suit guy another 10k to give to SM1. Suit guy claims he paid SM1 approximately 20k.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:15 am to JustGetItRight
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We may end up using the Cam argument and, as Tuscaloosa pointed out the day the story broke
But i thought the NCAA changed the rules after the Cam situation.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:16 am to PearlJam
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So the total the Alabama Staffer for paid was around 25k assuming the suit guy really have him the money he was supposed to give him.
that's my understanding
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:23 am to konjis1
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But i thought the NCAA changed the rules after the Cam situation.
They did.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:25 am to PearlJam
You're right, I missed a meeting.
It is $25 with the issue being the feds didn't lay out where they think all of it went.
It is $25 with the issue being the feds didn't lay out where they think all of it went.
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