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re: Both Saban and Bielema in the room campaigning for the 10 second rule
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:41 pm to Rabern57
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:41 pm to Rabern57
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Only because its so funny that he would go to such great lengths to get rules passed because he can't handle your coach beating him.
What lengths is he going to?
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:41 pm to TheRookbird
It doesn't matter if they are for recruiting or gameplay. Rules were changed to diminish what Saban does best. Rules are changing to diminish what other coaches do well. Six of one, half dozen of another.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:41 pm to WarAlude
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If you can not beat them fair and square
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lets change the rules
Like how Malzahn wants to change the rules to prevent injuries from slowing his offense? As you auburn people say, what is so wrong with coming up with a new strategy within the existing rules?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:42 pm to BamaNixon
quote:I was just saying I thought that was what the Saban Rule was. I don't care if he was or wasn't supposed to be doing it. I agree that it was as a result of coaches that didn't want to put the same work into recruiting that Saban did.
If he was doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing, why did they have to change the rules to make it illegal?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:42 pm to Monticello
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Like how Malzahn wants to change the rules to prevent injuries from slowing his offense?
When our coach does it, it's standing up for what's right. When your coach does it, it's whining.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:42 pm to BamaNixon
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If he was doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing, why did they have to change the rules to make it illegal?
Because the rules were/are completely vague. It's amazing how poorly worded or thought out the majority of the recruiting rule book is..
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:43 pm to Swm323
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It doesn't matter if they are for recruiting or gameplay. Rules were changed to diminish what Saban does best. Rules are changing to diminish what other coaches do well. Six of one, half dozen of another.
WRONG. Rules for the game are different. You're only arguing that ignorant point because you feel like you are defending your coach.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:44 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:Going to lobby for a rule to try to stop the coaches from using a style he can't beat unless he has a huge talent advantage. Lying at first and saying it was for safety reasons and then back tracking when the numbers proved he was wrong.
What lengths is he going to?
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:44 pm to WDE24
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I was just saying I thought that was what the Saban Rule was. I don't care if he was or wasn't supposed to be doing it. I agree that it was as a result of coaches that didn't want to put the same work into recruiting that Saban did.
I think this whole discussion is stupid, by the way. I don't care if the rule gets changed, and I don't care whether or not Saban is testifying, whining, campaigning or observing in favor of it or against it. People in this thread are fricking stupid, so I'll probably just make fun of them for it.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:46 pm to Monticello
quote:What? Malzahn has never said that.
Like how Malzahn wants to change the rules to prevent injuries from slowing his offense?
quote:Nothing as long as it doesn't violate the ethical standards published by the NCAA.
what is so wrong with coming up with a new strategy within the existing rules?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:46 pm to TheRookbird
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WRONG. Rules for the game are different.
In what way? Honestly. If there was a rule that said you could only recruit players in your own state, wouldn't that change the game? I think the line you're drawing is arbitrary.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:47 pm to Monticello
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Like how Malzahn wants to change the rules to prevent injuries from slowing his offense?
Huh?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:47 pm to Rabern57
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Going to lobby for a rule to try to stop the coaches from using a style he can't beat unless he has a huge talent advantage.
Fair enough. So when people lobby to change the rules to keep him from getting a huge talent advantage, then those people are whining and crying and bullshite as well, right?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:47 pm to REV-S
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Respect to Les he actually tries to figure a way to stop it instead of B!tching about it.
Les Miles spends too much time bitching about schedules and Alabama to worry about bitching over the HUNH.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:48 pm to BamaNixon
quote:Yes. As long as it is not cheating like buying player, etc.
Fair enough. So when people lobby to change the rules to keep him from getting a huge talent advantage, then those people are whining and crying and bullshite as well, right?
The ones whining things are usually the ones that are lazy and want a limit so they don't have to work as hard as others. Like recruiting as hard as others and just like the HUNH rules. Coaches that want to just win by having more talent instead of putting the extra time in teaching the players better technique to play against it.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:48 pm to Monticello
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Les Miles spends too much time bitching about schedules and Alabama to worry about bitching over the HUNH.
It's not bitching if our coach does it. It's SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:50 pm to Rabern57
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Yes
Great. So then you're opposed to any rule change that would make it easier to penalize teams for faking injuries, right?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:51 pm to polydorr
I just don't see what's unfair about a team that controls the ball choosing not to sub players and not waiting on the other team to do so. That's pussy football... not the other way around.
But everyone's taking the party line... I know I'm guilty of it... but then again I'm not the one trying to come up with some arbitrary rule change 120+ years into the sport
ETA: And people equating an on-the-field rule change to a recruiting rule change are hilarious That said, I'm fine with overturning the "Saban Rule". Just think it's pretty shameless to change the clock rules just to even the field... that's not what gameplay rules should be changed for... philosophies should evolve to offset those trends.
The safety angle is horsehit and everyone here knows it so I'm not really addressing that
But everyone's taking the party line... I know I'm guilty of it... but then again I'm not the one trying to come up with some arbitrary rule change 120+ years into the sport
ETA: And people equating an on-the-field rule change to a recruiting rule change are hilarious
That said, I'm fine with overturning the "Saban Rule". Just think it's pretty shameless to change the clock rules just to even the field... that's not what gameplay rules should be changed for... philosophies should evolve to offset those trends. The safety angle is horsehit and everyone here knows it so I'm not really addressing that
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:54 pm to Swoopin
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I just don't see what's unfair about a team that controls the ball choosing not to sub players and not waiting on the other team to do so
Everybody gets a trophy these days.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:55 pm to BamaNixon
quote:It is already against the NCAA ethical standards. It is just something that is difficult to enforce and I think the NCAA will avoid doing so unless things start getting to a ridiculous level on the injury faking front.
So then you're opposed to any rule change that would make it easier to penalize teams for faking injuries, right?
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