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re: Boom's first three years at UF vs. a couple of anonymous coaches
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:57 pm to roadGator
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:57 pm to roadGator
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I'm not doing anything for him but cheering for the team and for their success. You know, being a fan. Weird huh. I spend no time training him.
You're a good sport for a gator, bro. I honestly don't get the love, but it's none of my business. Maybe it's the LSU fan in me. I would have fired Bieliema (sp?) after one season.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:58 pm to bamabenny
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Why didn't you use their first three years at Bama and LSU?
Were Bama and LSU the specific coaches first three years as a HC?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:58 pm to roadGator
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Boom: 7-6, 11-2, 4-8 - 22-16 (year 4: 2-0 to date) Anonymous 1: 4-7, 8-5, 9-5 - 21-17 (year 4: 7-5) Anonymous 2: 9-2, 6-5-1, 6-6 - 21-13-1 (year 4: 7-5) The two anonymous are considered two of the best coaches in the nation by most who aren't insane.
Are you admitting that Florida is a mid-tier power 5, little brother school and that Muschamp will have to go to a power program to win a championship?
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:59 pm to roadGator
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I'm not sure it would make sense to compare Coach 1's first three years and Coach 2's years 6,7 and 8 or whatever.
Because this is the SECr and no matter the justification, Boom and Florida suck...
am I doing it right
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:59 pm to roadGator
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I'm not sure it would make sense to compare Coach 1's first three years and Coach 2's years 6,7 and 8 or whatever.
It is easier to coach some places. Florida is one of those places.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:01 pm to Navytiger74
I've already laid out under what conditions I would support terminating him. I don't have any loyalty to him or any other coach. I don't know these cats.
I'm rooting for him because he seems likable and seems to really want to do well. What more could I ask for in a guy (yes, yes wins - I know)?
Folks take this stuff way too seriously. If he can't get it done, we move on.
Had we not been injury riddled last year and we went 4-8, he wouldn't be at UF and I'd be OK with that.
Where's he really failed is OC selection and wanting to change to pro offense. He's seen the light. Maybe he can get it done. This is his QBs third offense to learn. I personally don't expect it to be running smooth until much later this season.
I'm rooting for him because he seems likable and seems to really want to do well. What more could I ask for in a guy (yes, yes wins - I know)?
Folks take this stuff way too seriously. If he can't get it done, we move on.
Had we not been injury riddled last year and we went 4-8, he wouldn't be at UF and I'd be OK with that.
Where's he really failed is OC selection and wanting to change to pro offense. He's seen the light. Maybe he can get it done. This is his QBs third offense to learn. I personally don't expect it to be running smooth until much later this season.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:02 pm to KajunGator
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am I doing it right
fricking spot on.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:02 pm to Aubie83
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Were Bama and LSU the specific coaches first three years as a HC?
Yes sir.
Everyone is doing the but, but, but stuff.
No one wanted to hear about but, but, but after we lost to GA southern. Weird how this place works.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:05 pm to roadGator
Did either Anonymous 1 or Anonymous 2 inherit near the talent Boom inherited at Florida? Did either inherit the resources Florida has?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:08 pm to Larry
Coulda used Jimbo's record....
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:08 pm to Larry
More but, but, but... You don't want to hear but, but, but from me on this though.
I've asked this question several times in the past and it gets ignored.
What OL, TE, RB, QB or WR would (in your case LSU) your team have traded UF for in the first 2 years?
Would you have switched OCs? What about 11-2?
Just look at the results. Their first three years aren't that different. No? Yes?
I've asked this question several times in the past and it gets ignored.
What OL, TE, RB, QB or WR would (in your case LSU) your team have traded UF for in the first 2 years?
Would you have switched OCs? What about 11-2?
Just look at the results. Their first three years aren't that different. No? Yes?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:09 pm to Larry
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Did either Anonymous 1 or Anonymous 2 inherit near the talent Boom inherited at Florida? Did either inherit the resources Florida has?
The real question is what did anon #1 and #2 accomplish at those schools?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:09 pm to Larry
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talent Boom inherited
Name one offensive star from Muschamps first 2 years as our coach....just one star.
Go ahead...
I'll wait.....
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:10 pm to inelishaitrust
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The real question is what did anon #1 and #2 accomplish at those schools?
Nothing really.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:10 pm to Navytiger74
These next 5 games are make or break for Boom. Fans won't expect him back if he goes 0-5, but I fear Foley is really giving him 2015. Recruiting will be toast, and you can forget about the Gators for the next 5 years.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:11 pm to Vette
Vette my friend, don't worry. If we go 0-5, the coaching search firm has been contacted to begin their work and Foley dusts off the list he keeps in his drawer. It will be painful for him, but he'll have no choice. Rest assured of that.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:17 pm to KajunGator
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Name one offensive star from Muschamps first 2 years as our coach....just one star.
I really like Muschamp and want him to succeed, but the guy inherited some pretty good talent.
Frankie Hammond Jr., Solomon Patton, Trey Burton, Jordan Reed, Mike Gillislee, Chris Rainey, Deonte Thompson are all skill position players on NFL rosters. He also inherited Jeff Demps, guys still on the team like Dunbar and Debose, and a bunch of highly rated QBs.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Yeah, between Zook and Muschamp, y'all are making Miles look like a genius instead of the Saban coattail rider he is.
It's supposed to be easy taking over for a departing national championship coach, isn't it?
It certainly bodes better than 4 - 8 and losing to a one dimensional FCS team.
I daresay avoiding that isn't asking too much?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:29 pm to bgator85
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I really like Muschamp and want him to succeed, but the guy inherited some pretty good talent.
Frankie Hammond Jr., Solomon Patton, Trey Burton, Jordan Reed, Mike Gillislee, Chris Rainey, Deonte Thompson are all skill position players on NFL rosters. He also inherited Jeff Demps, guys still on the team like Dunbar and Debose, and a bunch of highly rated QBs.
And this nails it -- the only problem that Muschamp had was running that godforsaken pro-style offense without any players to actually run it. None of those players named were pro-style.
None of the O-line were pro-style.
If we had been running the spread, the team wouldn't be nearly as bad as it was for the past few years on offense.
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