re: BOOM! WSU's Response To Players That Support PAC-12 Player's Demands

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Keep repeating this. It gets more persuasive each time, even if the numbers aren’t accurate ?

Your own school’s athletic department loses money every year, yet you want to pay players. El oh el

Those media deals aren’t just for two sports btw.

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As Duane Pride would say, "learn things"


Read this you might learn something

An excerpt

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Within football and basketball, an exclusive group of colleges bring in most of
the money. The Power Five conferences (ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12)
include 65 of the most successful schools in college sports, both athletically and
financially. Those programs brought in more than $7.6 billion in revenue last
year. Out of the 2,078 institutions that have athletic programs, those 65 schools
generated 54 percent of all college sports revenue. Essentially, 3 percent of all
college programs bring in more than half of all the money, and they do that
primarily by plowing money into their massive football programs.

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What do you say now a-hole?

$6 Billion in 2016 up to 7.6 Billion in 2019, and you're against larger Stipends for FB & MBB at those Power5 schools that are generating such staggering cash flows

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As Duane Pride would say, "learn things"


Read this you might learn something

An excerpt

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Within football and basketball, an exclusive group of colleges bring in most of
the money. The Power Five conferences (ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12)
include 65 of the most successful schools in college sports, both athletically and
financially. Those programs brought in more than $7.6 billion in revenue last
year. Out of the 2,078 institutions that have athletic programs, those 65 schools
generated 54 percent of all college sports revenue. Essentially, 3 percent of all
college programs bring in more than half of all the money, and they do that
primarily by plowing money into their massive football programs.



What do you say now a-hole?

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Speaking of learning something, here's something you need to learn. Revenue is not profit. Revenue is the money generated before expenses.

Profits for most companies is a small % of the total revenue generated. For college football, the profits are 0. All the revenue that is generated is used to pay for the programs, improve the facilities, bring in better coaches, better healthcare people, better physical trainers, better food, more entertainment areas for players, better equipment, and the list keeps going. It's all to the benefit of the players right down to the free education that others pay for.

Even then, most of those in your article still rely heavily on donations.

I think her argument is to tell the women’s field hockey team they should figure out how to make America want to watch their sport or kick rocks. Because, you know, we should treat college athletics like a professional sports league.

The part that really makes me laugh is the penalty free transfers to anywhere they want when they want

You can’t have it both ways. If you are going to pay for play then you should be compensated for that asset like every professional league around the world. You,get draft picks, you get money, you get other players

So you want a school to invest money in a player and pay him all these benefits but then he can walk away and go somewhere else without getting anything in return. Does anyone understand how anything works anymore. My god

I can tell you a big reason none of those are accurate....private schools don’t release, nor are they required to release, their financials. That includes Vandy, Miami, Duke, USC, Northwestern, Baylor, TCU, and Stanford. There are also others exempt. Only 52 schools report their yearly totals among the P5.

You also keep dodging why you are putting the entire P5 on equal footing. Texas grossed 222 million in 2018-2019. Washington State grossed 71 million (roughly 1/3). So you tell me how you can implement a blanket revenue share and/or stipend.

You also continue to ignore the difference between net and gross revenue. About 1/2 of the P5 roughly breaks even or loses money every year from athletics. How do you reconcile that? Breach coaching contracts? Cut all non-revenue sports and tell those student athletes to kick rocks? Stop providing amenities for the football/basketball programs? Stop investing money into the actual university, you know that place that provides the platform for the players and the actual reason most of them are there. There isn’t some mysterious pool of money lying around in a bank account to pay these guys.

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You could always do your own research and provide the media deals from each P5 conference and add them up. You could also maybe do some research into the difference in gross or net revenue at somewhere like Texas and compare it to a school like Minnesota or Washington State. All P5s are not created equal, so you placing a blanket over 65 programs as if their financials are remotely comparable to try to make a point just makes you look as dumb as the click bait journalists of the MSM

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Learn things:

Be Wary of Shady Accounting

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And your argument about Patrick Ewing and big Monday is irrelevant because it’s college basketball and people care about it. Let’s say Patrick Ewing went and played for Billings Montana d league and they broadcast it on ESPN. No one is going to give a shite then and no one will now

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You're missing my point

All these idiots around here claim all the value of College Sports is in the name on the front of the Jersey, my counterclaim is that it is a combination of the Players & Coaches working in unison to create an elite entertainment product

My point was that no one gave a damn about the name Georgetown Hoyas on the front of the Jersey, until Pat Ewing and all those McDonald's AA's from Baltimore were on the Team, proving that Talent is a major factor in the Revenues generated by Athl Depts

I don't get into the D-League vs College debate, my position has always been why create something new when Tons of cash is flowing thru P5 Athl Depts, they just have to treat the Revenue Athletes a lot better

I don't believe in creating new Development Leagues or Minor Leagues when the simplest solution is to simply give FB & MBB larger Stipends

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So on one hand you’re saying to trust numbers in one article but on another I’m being told not to. Which is it? ?

Why don’t you find the source material for the articles, you know the “research.” An opinion piece written by a journalist is not doing your own research. I thought GA Tech grads were supposed to know these things

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US Senators don't do opinion pieces and the first Article from 2016 ESPN got their Data from the NCAA and the Dept of Education

This is a weak arse argument, you know damn well those numbers are accurate

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US Senators don't do opinion pieces and the first Article from 2016 ESPN got their Data from the NCAA and the Dept of Education

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I don’t think bannersociety.com is run by US Senators or ESPN. And you also didn’t address that 13 of the 65 schools are not represented in those numbers. So how were they able to simply produce them? Guessed? At least USA Today was honest in their reporting by providing their methodology and noted that fact.

And FOH if you don’t think a politician would write an opinion piece. 95% of their day is consumed by pushing a slanted agenda. Is this real life?

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You also keep dodging why you are putting the entire P5 on equal footing. Texas grossed 222 million in 2018-2019. Washington State grossed 71 million (roughly 1/3). So you tell me how you can implement a blanket revenue share and/or stipend. You also continue to ignore the difference between net and gross revenue. About 1/2 of the P5 roughly breaks even or loses money every year from athletics. How do you reconcile that? Breach coaching contracts? Cut all non-revenue sports and tell those student athletes to kick rocks? Stop providing amenities for the football/basketball programs? Stop investing money into the actual university, you know that place that provides the platform for the players and the actual reason most of them are there. There isn’t some mysterious pool of money lying around in a bank account to pay these guys.

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