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re: Bogus National Title claims: Alabama claims 18 but most are questionable

Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:06 pm to
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dstone12


Goddamn you are melting hard over this.

I'm actually impressed.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:11 pm to
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The LSU fans that own both websites appreciate your patronage sending them money to give to TAF.


I would quit donating if my ROI was 1 out of 10.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:12 pm to
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Goddamn you are melting hard over this.

I'm actually impressed.

It's not just him. The fact that it can be objectively argued that 2020 Bama was better than 2019 LSU drives them insane.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83601 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:13 pm to
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The fact that it can be objectively argued that 2020 Bama was better than 2019 LSU drives them insane.


Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
39003 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:13 pm to
In a thread where I ask this:
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Hey genius, Ever seen a thread started by, well you’n’yours about LSUs 2019 best team of all time?


SuperModerator SideTaint comes back with:
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G———— you are melting hard over this.





One of our paid mods can’t answer question but is reeeeeal good at keeping this thread bumped.


Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83601 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:14 pm to
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One of our paid mods can’t answer question but is reeeeeal good at keeping this thread bumped.


It's official.

You're a fricking idiot.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9540 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:24 pm to
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The only one I think is truly ridiculous is 1941.
Why they include that one is a mystery.



Agreed. 1941 is an absolutely ridiculous one to claim. Also agree about not counting 1973. If we're being strict and picky I suppose you have a point about not counting 1964 but it's hard not to claim it if when the AP awards it to you.

I agree about claiming 1945, 1966, and 1977 IF we're judging all teams by a more liberal standard but I'm fine with Alabama only claiming AP titles (with the exception of 1941 which should be tossed) from 1936 on.

It could also be argued that since football was played prior to 1936 that Alabama is well within its rights to count a few of the titles awarded prior to 1936. Any undefeated seasons or seasons which AT LEAST two or more of the polls of the day awarded a team the national championship should be fair game to count. In Alabama's case, there's no reason that at least 3 of the 4 seasons (and a case could be made for all 4) among 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934 could reasonably claimed as national titles as well.

Having said all that, if we're going by the "modern college football era" only, I'm fine with Alabama claiming the 12 AP titles they won.

12 AP titles in 60 seasons (from 1961 to 2020) is pretty amazing when you really think about it.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:28 pm to
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Any undefeated seasons


I recognize these as the “best.”

Going undefeated is better than being “selected” for whatever.

Line up and win the games.

Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:43 pm to
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12 AP titles in 60 seasons (from 1961 to 2020) is pretty amazing when you really think about it.

So are all the others. I think Alabama football has done all right.

AP (1934-present)


Coaches (UPI, USA Today, ESPN) (1950-present)


NFF MacArthur Bowl (1959-present)


FWAA Grantland Rice (1954-2014)


BCS (1998-2013)


College Football Playoff (2014-present)
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:44 pm to
What a weird arse bump
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3687 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:46 pm to
The small people got the butt hurt.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28860 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:12 pm to
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In conclusion, next time you see Alabama fans (or even Notre Dame fans) popping off about their national titles, just laugh at them and reference this write up


Meh. Go ahead and just credit us with 8 then, and know that we'll be laughing our asses off because you and your children will all be dead before LSU wins their 8th. I'll take that and be ok with it.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17816 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:51 pm to
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Goddamn you are melting hard over this.

I'm actually impressed


Posted by Ghost_Of_Big_Lee
Member since Dec 2020
449 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:32 am to
Well written. I only disagree with you on Alabama’s 2020 national title. I still believe that it shouldn’t be counted as a legit title. Bama faced off with Ohio stay in the championship game, Most people are arguing that Ohio state didn’t deserve to be in the title game against Bama due to the lack of games in their schedule. If those individuals are right how can Bama claim 2020 as a legit title if they didn’t play the legit #2 contender?
Posted by Ghost_Of_Big_Lee
Member since Dec 2020
449 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:36 am to
By your logic, your stating that “the status quo should be the rule of law; even if there are greater means to a better outcome?
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:38 am to
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100 pages


This could actually happen one day.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
3100 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:06 am to
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Most people are arguing that Ohio state didn’t deserve to be in the title game against Bama due to the lack of games in their schedule. If those individuals are right how can Bama claim 2020 as a legit title if they didn’t play the legit #2 contender?


This is not rocket surgery. Points to consider:

1) Alabama met all comers, no matter who was in front of them.

2) Ohio St was absolutely the legit #2 contender - because that was the playoff selection team by definition. They certainly won their semi-final and made it to the championship game. So who would you have suggested that Bama play instead for a better matchup? Certainly not Notre Dame, Clemson, Oklahoma, or Texas A&M. Or Coastal Carolina. Are you really convinced in your heart that it would have mattered who faced Bama in the championship game?

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I still believe that it shouldn’t be counted as a legit title


3) This is crazy. It's not our fault a bunch of teams decided to hibernate for a while, or even if some players quit on their team. College football, despite Covid 19, developed a process. Bama followed that process and the rules, we played the games, and we came out on top at the end. Every other team had the opportunity to follow the same rules and play a full slate of games available if they had wanted to.

Fortunately, it's not up to you. The NCAA says our 2020 championship was legit, and the nation saw us outclass everyone we faced. Period. End of story, whether you like it or not.
Posted by Rawanduncut
Member since Sep 2019
482 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:12 am to
Yale and Princeton has the most national championships. Alabama do not have the most. They are the program that has won the most in most of our lifetime but they do not jave more than Yale or Princeton where I see they won 28 and 25 championships apiece.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70228 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:35 am to
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Yale and Princeton has the most national championships. Alabama do not have the most. They are the program that has won the most in most of our lifetime but they do not jave more than Yale or Princeton where I see they won 28 and 25 championships apiece.


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Rawanduncut


May I suggest an English class to help you with spelling and grammar?
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
39003 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 7:10 am to
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What a weird arse bump


Wow.

I didn’t know it was against the rules of the visitors from Alabama.


You got boys melting.

You have an admin losing her shite cussing the users and not using The word ‘melt’ correctly.

Then bbeck actually bumps the thread after talking about weird thread bump.


Insane 1300 post thread of bamallectuals ‘not melting’.



“Everything’s fine over here”.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 7:12 am
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