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re: Bogus National Title claims: Alabama claims 18 but most are questionable

Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:23 pm to
Only problem with your statements....

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Alabama, one of only a handful od schools that played in a bowl game to end every NC winning season, won at least 3 in the Rose Bowl for 25,26,30...... there are newspapers that say it as well...... so Alabama has at least 14...

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:23 pm to
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Chicken


Who the hell lets this guy keep his posting privileges?
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Auburn (1)


Posted by JCinBAMA
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Who the hell lets this guy keep his posting privileges?


Alter?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Let me preface this by saying that the BCS, started in 1998, was the best thing that happened to college football.
If by "best" thing, you mean "worst" thing, then yes, I agree.

All the BCS did was usher in the playoffs, which will continue to expand until it devalues the regular season like the NFL.

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This is where the term Mythical National Champion comes from.

Therefore, I contend that, prior to the first BCS Title game, if the top 2 teams at the end of the regular season did not face off in a bowl game, then we will never know if the team that was arbitrarily awarded the title that season was really the best team.
Remind me again how the top 2 teams got to be the top 2 teams? Oh, that's right, they were put there by the same kind of "mythical" method you just finished railing against. You can't have it both ways.

Truth is, today's national champion is no less mythical than it's ever been. The only difference is now the powers that be are (and will continue to) diminish the regular season, the thing that made college football the GOAT.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:38 pm to
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At this rate, Bama might end up with more National Titles than SEC titles.
A win tonight, and they'll have more National Titles than LSU has SEC titles

Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:40 pm to
Bama had a second one in 70’s
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:42 pm to
What about LSU in 03? Didn't play number 1 USC.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:42 pm to
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Alabama, one of only a handful od schools that played in a bowl game to end every NC winning season




1973 is my favorite.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Therefore, I contend that, prior to the first BCS Title game, if the top 2 teams at the end of the regular season did not face off in a bowl game, then we will never know if the team that was arbitrarily awarded the title that season was really the best team.


One problem, then. When LSU played oklahoma in 2003, Oklahoma indeed was the #1 team, but LSU was rankde #3, so by your rules/Logic LSU cannot claim their 2003 championship. The 2003 game cannot qualify for a championship.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Chicken, may I have your autograph? Your one of the greatest and I'm proud to call you a fellow Gamecock.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:44 pm to
"Woody is a great coach . . . and I ain't bad." -- After the Tide beat Ohio State 35 - 6 in the 1978 Sugar Bowl.
Posted by Judah Mann
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:45 pm to
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Remind me again how the top 2 teams got to be the top 2 teams? Oh, that's right, they were put there by the same kind of "mythical" method you just finished railing against.


Wrong. The top two teams won their way to this position. They WERE chosen to make the tourney, but the rest was up to the teams themselves.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Chicken
Bumping 3-year-old threads...

ETA: It's quite a complement to UA that this thread gets bumped around this time every year and that Chicken continues to update it.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:47 pm to


You know the rest.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:47 pm to
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2007 LSU is not legit


All 128 NCAA FBS members were members of the BCS which named LSU the champion. By definition it's legitimate, regardless of what some fans say. When all 128 members of an organization say "this is our champion", that pretty much settles it. The fact that the system expanded from 2 to 4 teams doesn't make those BCS champions any less relevant than World Series winners back when there were only two teams in the postseason. Adding wild cards...that subsequently won it all...doesn't diminish the accomplishments of those earlier champions.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:47 pm to
Tldr but for every questionable title Bama has...they have been screwed out of just as many. I mean damn, at least we have plenty to debate when it comes to so many titles.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:51 pm to
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craigbiggio


AUbsessed
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:53 pm to
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every questionable title Bama has
1941 is the only one that's really "questionable." You can make a case for not including the four pre-1936 titles, but since the Rose Bowl was the only post-season game at the time, it was considered a championship at that time. Chicken's argument about not counting 1964 is classic trolling.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:54 pm to
1973 disagrees.
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