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re: Bluest of The Blue Blood Coaches

Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:25 am to
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:25 am to
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No Barry switzer? Multi national titles and a Super Bowl. For that matter jimmy johnson and petey carroll only got one natty but both also have a Super Bowl ring as head coach


He's in the group of 9 with 3 cfb national titles. Also in that group are Bud Wilkinson, Pop Warner, Knute Rokne, Darrell Royal, Tom Osbourne, Urban Meyer, Walter Camp and Howard Jones.

My list was only about college accomplishments.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by Smokey Okie
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:17 pm to
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He's in the group of 9 with 3 cfb national titles. Also in that group are Bud Wilkinson, Pop Warner, Knute Rokne, Darrell Royal, Tom Osbourne, Urban Meyer, Walter Camp and Howard Jones.



You need to do more research and be better prepared to comment. Wallace Wade has 3 NC's at Alabama.

Bob Kirlin
College Football Researchers Association
David Wilson
Loren Maxwell
Parke Davis
Mel Smith
Ray Byrne
Sagarin Rankings
The State's National Champions

(Won the Rose Bowl)
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 8:36 pm
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
3890 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:22 pm to
I beg to differ on blue blood.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5833 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:02 am to
Hayes has 3 - 1954 (AP), 1957 (UPI), 1968 (AP & UPI)

The other two the Buckeyes claim that gives Hayes five are:

1961: (8-0-1), #2 in AP and UPI. They were awarded the FWAA trophy but it doesn’t hold the same weight as the AP and UPI which named Alabama the national champion with an undefeated and untied (10-0-0) record before their bowl win giving them an (11-0-0) season.

1970: (9-1), UPI #2 (decided before bowl) and AP #5 (after bowl). They were given a shared piece of the NFF title but again, doesn’t hold the same weight as the AP and UPI. Nebraska went (11-0-1) winning the AP and Texas went (10-1-0) winning the UPI (decided before bowl loss).

Hayes is officially part of the “3x national championship coach” club.

Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
12794 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:10 am to
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Tell me about the Alabama ties.


They all coached against Alabama.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7673 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 8:40 am to
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You left out Phil Fulmer for some reason


the fatass was fired twice from his own alma mater
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6407 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 8:44 am to
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Hayes has 3 - 1954 (AP), 1957 (UPI), 1968 (AP & UPI)

The other two the Buckeyes claim that gives Hayes five are:

1961: (8-0-1), #2 in AP and UPI. They were awarded the FWAA trophy but it doesn’t hold the same weight as the AP and UPI which named Alabama the national champion with an undefeated and untied (10-0-0) record before their bowl win giving them an (11-0-0) season.

1970: (9-1), UPI #2 (decided before bowl) and AP #5 (after bowl). They were given a shared piece of the NFF title but again, doesn’t hold the same weight as the AP and UPI. Nebraska went (11-0-1) winning the AP and Texas went (10-1-0) winning the UPI (decided before bowl loss).

Hayes is officially part of the “3x national championship coach” club.


If you look on the NCAA site and in the record book they hold the FWAA and NFF on the same level as the AP and Coaches.

AP (1936-present)
AFCA aka Coaches (1950-present)
FWAA (1954-2013)
NFF (1959-2013)
USA Today (1982-1990; took over the AFCA poll in 1991)
UPI (1991-1995 after USA Today took over the AFCA poll in 1991)
FWAA/NFF (2014-present)

For retroactive years before 1936, the NCAA considers the Helms Athletic Foundation (1941), National Championship Foundation (1980), and College Football Researchers Association (1982) as major polls.
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 8:53 am
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6407 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 8:46 am to
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You left out Phil Fulmer for some reason

39-40 record against final ranked teams.
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15033 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:24 am to
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They all coached against Alabama.
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