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re: Best college pitching staff ever? 1983 Texas Longhorns!
Posted on 2/26/26 at 10:46 pm to SoonerInTheFort
Posted on 2/26/26 at 10:46 pm to SoonerInTheFort
Who's the best dirt burglar pitcher ever? How about posting the stats on the best staff Oklahoma has produced.
Texas all time vs. Oklahoma....160-70-2
Texas all time vs. Oklahoma....160-70-2
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 10:48 pm to VFL67
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Crochet has statistically one of the best seasons in Boston history this last year
but not the best season in the American League last year
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He also had more wins, more strikeouts
wins? You serious with this? Literally no one cares about this stat anymore when evaluating a pitcher's performance. Paul Skenes barely had a winning record last year with a sub 2 ERA.
Skubal led the league in WAR, ERA, ERA+, FIP, WHIP, and SO/BB. Crocht had a good year, but the Cy Young vote wasn't close for a reason.
This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 2/26/26 at 10:54 pm to lsufball19
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wins? You serious with this? Literally no one cares about this stat anymore when evaluating a pitcher's performance
Triple crown of pitching: wins, strikeouts, and ERA. Crochet has Skubal beat on 2 out of 3, and he almost had a better ERA in a much harder division.
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Paul Skenes barely had a winning record last year with a sub 2 ERA
The three best pitchers in baseball were Skubal, Crochet, and Skenes. Skenes’s wins didnt matter because he plays in an easier pitching conference. Crochet’s stats waxed the NL runner up
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:00 pm to Victor R Franko
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1983 Texas Longhorns
1989 LSU Tigers
Ben McDonald - 9 year MLB career
Curt Leskanic - 12 year MLB career
Chad Ogea - 6 year MLB career
Paul Byrd - 15 year MLB career
Russ Springer - 19 year MLB career
John O'Donoghue - 4 year MLB career
pretty salty IMO
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:01 pm to VFL67
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Triple crown of pitching: wins, strikeouts, and ERA. Crochet has Skubal beat on 2 out of 3, and he almost had a better ERA in a much harder division.
again, nobody cares. Skubal led the AL in basically every single advanced metric, which is why he won in a landslide.
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:03 pm to lsufball19
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again, nobody cares
Actually good point.
Tennessee is the only SEC team with a MLB hall of famer and a CY Young winner. Crochet is young and if he keeps going at this rate he will make Tennessee the only program with 2 of each lol. Not bad for a school who just started caring about baseball
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:05 pm to VFL67
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Crochet is young and if he keeps going at this rate he will make Tennessee the only program with 2 of each lol.
Crochet has a looooooong way to go before you can start having HOF discussions about him. Just stop
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:09 pm to lsufball19
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if he keeps going at this rate
Dude can you read?
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Crochet has a looooooong way to go before you can start having HOF discussions about him. Just stop
If he keeps doing what he is doing then he will certainly be in the conversation
Posted on 2/26/26 at 11:41 pm to lsufball19
What are their college stats? This topic is college pitching staff, not MLB career. I may have mentioned some MLB comments, but clearly the college stats are posted entirely.
Do you have quick access to their stats?
Do you have quick access to their stats?
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:15 am to lsufball19
Firstly lsufball19,
Thank you for posting a reasonable response. The 1989 LSU pitching staff is indeed worthy of consideration. Frankly, without looking into the Rod Dedeaux USC teams, I figured LSU was going to be the only team to approach the Texas record. The other team fans on this board are just gonna talk shite and not post their teams best college season stats. Thanks again for mentioning that 89 team.
See my comments below the ************ line.
Brave AI returned this for LSU Tigers 1989 team.
Skip Bertman, finished with a record of 55–17 and advanced to the College World Series (CWS), where they went 2–2. The team's pitching staff was led by standout performers:
Ben McDonald (Jr., RHP): 14–4, 3.49 ERA, 202 strikeouts (school record at the time), 152.1 innings, 8 complete games, 3 shutouts. He earned the Golden Spikes Award and National Player of the Year honors in 1989.
Curt Leskanic (Jr., RHP): 15–2, 3.19 ERA, 120 strikeouts, 115.2 innings.
Paul Byrd (Fr., RHP): 6–2, 3.37 ERA, 73 strikeouts in 90.2 innings.
Russ Springer (Jr., RHP): 9–3, 3.49 ERA, 89 strikeouts.
The team's overall pitching stats for the season included:
629.0 innings pitched
655 strikeouts
254 earned runs
1.31 WHIP
3.63 team ERA
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I found link below for 1989 pitching stats for LSU. Yes, that team is probably about as close to the 83 Texas team as any team is going to get.
However, to compare....
Texas era of 2.72 > LSU era of 3.63
Texas SO/BB ratio of 2.50 > LSU ratio of 2.35
I'd call number of games played and wins as equal. Lot of other factors besides pitching for record.
Texas did win CWS, LSU went 2-2.
https://thebaseballcube.com/content/stats_college/1989~20004/
Thank you for posting a reasonable response. The 1989 LSU pitching staff is indeed worthy of consideration. Frankly, without looking into the Rod Dedeaux USC teams, I figured LSU was going to be the only team to approach the Texas record. The other team fans on this board are just gonna talk shite and not post their teams best college season stats. Thanks again for mentioning that 89 team.
See my comments below the ************ line.
Brave AI returned this for LSU Tigers 1989 team.
Skip Bertman, finished with a record of 55–17 and advanced to the College World Series (CWS), where they went 2–2. The team's pitching staff was led by standout performers:
Ben McDonald (Jr., RHP): 14–4, 3.49 ERA, 202 strikeouts (school record at the time), 152.1 innings, 8 complete games, 3 shutouts. He earned the Golden Spikes Award and National Player of the Year honors in 1989.
Curt Leskanic (Jr., RHP): 15–2, 3.19 ERA, 120 strikeouts, 115.2 innings.
Paul Byrd (Fr., RHP): 6–2, 3.37 ERA, 73 strikeouts in 90.2 innings.
Russ Springer (Jr., RHP): 9–3, 3.49 ERA, 89 strikeouts.
The team's overall pitching stats for the season included:
629.0 innings pitched
655 strikeouts
254 earned runs
1.31 WHIP
3.63 team ERA
********************************************
I found link below for 1989 pitching stats for LSU. Yes, that team is probably about as close to the 83 Texas team as any team is going to get.
However, to compare....
Texas era of 2.72 > LSU era of 3.63
Texas SO/BB ratio of 2.50 > LSU ratio of 2.35
I'd call number of games played and wins as equal. Lot of other factors besides pitching for record.
Texas did win CWS, LSU went 2-2.
https://thebaseballcube.com/content/stats_college/1989~20004/
Posted on 2/27/26 at 7:40 am to Victor R Franko
I have had a severe dislike for Clemens ever since the championship game. That was even before I found out he was a cheater.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 7:41 am to Victor R Franko
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What is it they like to say in the south??
Don't think that saying is limited to the south.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:38 am to Victor R Franko
2022 Tennessee Baseball has both LSU and Texas beat stats-wise in a harder era
Record: 57-9
Team ERA: 2.51
Strikeouts: 695
Chase Dollander: 10-0 Record and 2.39 ERA (Friday Starter)
Chase Burns: 8-2 Record and 2.91 ERA (Saturday Starter)
Drew Beam: 8-1 Record and 2.72 (Sunday Starter)
Zander Sechrist: 4-0 Record and 1.67 ERA (Midweek Starter)
This team has better stats than both the 1989 LSU and 1983 Texas teams. This is truly the greatest team in baseball history to not win the national title.
Record: 57-9
Team ERA: 2.51
Strikeouts: 695
Chase Dollander: 10-0 Record and 2.39 ERA (Friday Starter)
Chase Burns: 8-2 Record and 2.91 ERA (Saturday Starter)
Drew Beam: 8-1 Record and 2.72 (Sunday Starter)
Zander Sechrist: 4-0 Record and 1.67 ERA (Midweek Starter)
This team has better stats than both the 1989 LSU and 1983 Texas teams. This is truly the greatest team in baseball history to not win the national title.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 8:41 am
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:05 am to Victor R Franko
I was at that that CWS! I also remember the Bama hitter that was crushing the ball that year. Magadan?
I just remember I was nervous in that game every time he stepped up to bat.
I just remember I was nervous in that game every time he stepped up to bat.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:06 am to NFLSU
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Roger Clemens.
Major League Baseball embarrassment.
UTrans Baseball’s #1 alum.
Death, taxes, and this douchebag showing up in every single thread about Texas or Texas A&M
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:09 am to hookem33
Death, taxes and UTranny fans bleeding through their jeans whenever somebody posts facts they don’t like 
Roger Clemens is a cheating embarrassment.
Roger Clemens is UTranny Baseball’s #1 alum.
Deal with the facts or stay on Orangebloods
Roger Clemens is a cheating embarrassment.
Roger Clemens is UTranny Baseball’s #1 alum.
Deal with the facts or stay on Orangebloods
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:24 am to VFL67
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This team has better stats than both the 1989 LSU and 1983 Texas teams. This is truly the greatest team in baseball history to not win the national title.
Nah, disagree with this statement. Texas has a shite load of CWS runner up trophies. Lot's of teams over the years are best ever to not win the CWS. 2020 Tennessee didn't even make it to the CWS. As far as I'm concerned 7 TEAMS were better than Tennessee and not win the CWS.
Now I'll begrudgingly state this....The 2020 Tennessee pitching staff is arguably the best college pitching staff to not win the CWS. This team is statistically best college pitching staff ever.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:25 am to Victor R Franko
I met Clemens at the down defunct Hooters in Fayetteville
his kid had a tournament in town
also met his catcher who was a caddie on the PGA circuit some years before that - funny guy
his kid had a tournament in town
also met his catcher who was a caddie on the PGA circuit some years before that - funny guy
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:35 am to Victor R Franko
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Roger Clemens
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Calvin Schiraldi
Never knew these two were college teammates. They will be forever intertwined as part of the infamous 1986 Red Sox World Series collapse.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:37 am to VADawg
great staff
everyone else just jealous
everyone else just jealous
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