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re: Basketball: Who gets SEC Player of the Year?

Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:31 pm to
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What I am saying is I appreciate all of those metrics but at the end of the day, what matters are points, assists, rebounds, and steals.


Let me help you out

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PER strives to measure a player's per-minute performance, while adjusting for pace. A league-average PER is always 15.00, which permits comparisons of player performance across seasons.

PER takes into account accomplishments, such as field goals, free throws, 3-pointers, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals, and negative results, such as missed shots, turnovers and personal fouls. The formula adds positive stats and subtracts negative ones through a statistical point value system. The rating for each player is then adjusted to a per-minute basis so that, for example, substitutes can be compared with starters in playing time debates. It is also adjusted for the team's pace. In the end, one number sums up the players' statistical accomplishments for that season.

This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:33 pm to
Ok but the way that sounds to me is it gives a significant advantage to forwards and centers since Waters will be almost completely irrelevant in the blocks and rebounds column. Does that make him a worse player? No
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:36 pm to
And giving a player bonus points just because they foul less seems odd
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:38 pm to
Guards are allowed to get rebounds and blocks just as front court players are allowed to get assists and steals.

Williams leads the league in scoring and is in the top 11 in assists, rebounds, blocks and steals.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:40 pm to
He doesn’t lead the league in scoring. I just spent 20 minutes going through every conference game and doing the math and posted the numbers for you, and top 11 is great but Waters is #1 in assists and steals
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:42 pm to
Waters does not lead the league in scoring or assists.

Williams leads the league in scoring and Bone in assists.

The award is not for SEC play only.

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The Southeastern Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year is an award given to the player who has proven himself, throughout the season, to be the most exceptional talent in the Southeastern Conference (SEC).
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:42 pm to
It's still Williams
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:44 pm to
It’s a SEC award. So I think it’s should be for sec play. Obviously waters wouldn’t lead when you go out of conference because he was benched at that point. That’s such bs to even consider that a fair comparison
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:47 pm to
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So I think it’s should be for sec play.


You can create the Terrific Tales Player of the Year if you want where rebounds, blocks, turnovers, efficiency, and OOC play aren’t factors. I have no doubt Waters would be the heavy favorite to win that one.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:48 pm to
Lol no. Just take out the OOC in which he didn’t freaking play and he would still be the heavy favorite
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:50 pm to
Tremont Waters: TTPOY frontrunner
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:56 pm to
There's still plenty of games to play. If Tennessee drops 3 out of their last 6 that could probably knock Williams out.
Posted by 2014Tigers
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2014
1064 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:10 am to
Williams got bullied against UK. Dude could not handle the physicality of that game and it showed in the 1st half
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:22 am to
It’s Williams. Everybody else is playing for second.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119144 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:19 am to
Probably Grant Williams. Might depend on Washington's rest of the season though.

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