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Basketball: Who gets SEC Player of the Year?

Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:46 pm
I gotta think it’s a two horse race between Waters and Washington at this point. Maybe Williams is still in it but I can’t imagine that game against Kentucky helped his case. Waters and Washington both played well in the Kentucky/LSU game, though I think Washington played better if memory serves. Who do y’all have winning it?

For all of you haters, in SEC play, Waters leads in assists and steals... and also PPG
Williams : 18.5 PPG
Washington : 16.5 PPG
Waters : 19.6 PPG
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted by vosams
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:47 pm to
Williams lol /thread
Posted by Terrific Tales
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:48 pm to
I am sorry I have no idea what your response is even trying to say. Would you mind trying english?
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:51 pm to
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Williams


Good choice



This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:51 pm to
If you are trying to say Williams gets it, I think he needs a massive game against LSU for that to happen
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:51 pm to
Williams had 16 and 8 last night and missed only one shot. He played well but Tennessee’s guards didn’t get him the ball at all. He should be getting 10+ shots a game, not 4.

Tennessee still has games left against UK and LSU. He is still the heavy favorite imo although if Waters or Washington single handedly win the league title for their team I guess they could win it.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted by MOJO_RISER
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:52 pm to
waters and his 3.8 turnovers per game
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:53 pm to
why don't you go turn your dick over in a pair of scissors
Posted by Terrific Tales
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:53 pm to
Why would he be the heavy favorite? I absolutely agree that he is still in the race, but all three of these players stats are very comparable. Waters leads in steals and assists, not sure who is leading in points as of now but in conference play it’s got to be pretty close
Posted by MSHawg1
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:54 pm to
Daniel Gafford / Thread
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:55 pm to
Zero chance for Waters, he's not even the best PG in the league.

It's a two horse race between Washington and Williams.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:55 pm to
It’s gotta be Grant Williams.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:01 pm to
Analytics like KenPom have him as a pretty significant favorite. He is the defending league player of the year, as well.

The numbers like PER and oRtg don’t really support Waters being a legitimate competitor. Washington has come on strong and could be a real challenger, especially if UK upsets Tennessee in Knoxville, but Waters has been way too inefficienct compared to the other 2.

oRtg
Williams 128.2
Washington 120.2
Waters 108.6

PER
Williams 31.7
Washington 27.0
Waters 22.3
Posted by BIGFOOD
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:08 pm to
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It’s gotta be Grant Williams.


No doubt. Dude is a beast. It's his to lose right now.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:14 pm to
I mean, those metrics are cool and all, but Waters got sat for the 1st 4 games of the season and I said SEC player of the year. And in SEC play
Williams: 18.5 PPG
Washington: 16.5 PPG
Waters: 19.6 PPG

And Waters leads in steals and assists as well
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:16 pm to
Is this your first year following basketball
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:20 pm to
Why would games played matter? Those are efficiency numbers.

Here are conference only numbers fwiw

oRtg
Williams 129.0
Washington 122.2
Waters 120.2

PER
Williams 30.8
Washington 28.4
Waters 28.0
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:23 pm to
What exactly are those numbers attempting to measure? Are they just some sort of overall player score? And waters did play in those 4 games, but his stats were skewed because he had very few minutes comparatively
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 11:24 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:26 pm to
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What exactly are those numbers attempting to measure?


PER is probably the most common player comparison metric in the sport. I would suggest doing a little research before making threads like this if you don’t even know what PER is.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:29 pm to
What I am saying is I appreciate all of those metrics but at the end of the day, what matters are points, assists, rebounds, and steals. Let me put it this way. If you asked any player in the SEC who they least want to go 1 on 1 with, I bet you over half would say Waters, and maybe more than that
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