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re: Bama's "protest march"

Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:42 am to
Hylton spoke. She kidnapped a guy, raped him with a steel rod, crushed his nuts with pliers, burned him, cut him and for 3 weeks tortured him until his death.

Dems held her up as a GREAT COMMuNITY LEADER and allowed her to speak.


And the every day dems have had enought of this. Dem mayors in liberal states are endorse trump.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1153 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:43 am to
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poverty, addiction, high population density of the poor, and untreated mental illness.


You are clearly on the nurture side of the fence in the great nature versus nurture debate, but nature plays an equal role. You see many cases of siblings raised in the same environment end up in two very different lifestyles due to personal choices. Personal responsibility and accountability (or lack thereof) are as important as any other factors when it comes to crime.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:47 am
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:47 am to
Agreed, but being told that they're oppressed and perpetual victims won't help black Americans overcome those things. Quite the opposite imo
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:48 am to
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I'm certain you've seen none of his new policy stances as opposed to his entire history of running against them.
And which of the two do you find more believable: the campaign promises of a politician trying to get elected, or the multiple decade long record of his votes and donor lists?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:50 am to
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And which of the two do you find more believable: the campaign promises of a politician trying to get elected, or the multiple decade long record of his votes and donor lists?




That's irrelevant to my point. They control his narrative. The old school dem party is dead. The new guys control the narrative, and it's not just the "squad." It's the powers behind them.

I do think Bernie gave them a huge voice in 2016 though. Not to utterly devolve topic this into strictly politics.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by Chuck Barris
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:57 am to
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Agreed, but being told that they're oppressed and perpetual victims won't help black Americans overcome those things. 
I agree with you in that a "victim mindset" where everything in your life seems to be beyond your control is not a healthy, productive way to live.

To me, the need to avoid that mindset has to be tempered with a recognition of real problems that both individuals and groups face. For example, I'm sure neither of us would say that MLK or Cesar Chavez had a victim mindset while fighting oppression. Protesting for change can be a form of taking control of your own life by acknowledging that some factors holding you back can be changed.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2857 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:01 pm to
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Hylton spoke. 
I actually agree with you here.

Convicted felons have no business speaking at these conventions, and a felony conviction is an unforgivable stain that should define someone for the rest of their life.

And that's why President Trump was wrong to invite a convicted felon bankrobber to the RNC and pardon him onstage, thus taking away from the seriousness of his crime.

I'm sure you'd agree that a failure on your part to call out Trump's actions would be the height of hypocrisy and partisan shilling, and so I await your bolded copy-and-paste condemnation of Trump (using no fewer than four exclamation points) with baited breath.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:10 pm to
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They control his narrative. The old school dem party is dead. The new guys control the narrative
As much as I wish this were true, it isn't. If it was, Nancy Pelosi wouldn't be breaking the traditional rule of not intervening in primaries through endorsements of politicians like Joe Kennedy and Eliot Engel. If it was true, there wouldn't have been a coordinated dropout of mainstream Democratic candidates before "Super Tuesday" to make sure Sanders had no shot. If it was, Bloomberg wouldn't have dropped out as the Wall Street candidate as soon as Biden got any momentum.

The Democratic Party is the party of people who hear about a new prison being built and tweet about the importance of hiring a diverse staff of prison guards. It is the party that wants to make sure that at least one of the executives at the bank that forecloses on your house in a financial crisis is a woman.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29137 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:14 pm to
gussie attended the previous rally at the barn.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29631 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:48 pm to
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As much as I wish this were true, it isn't.


I never said they had zero power left, but narrative control is #1. If you can't control the narrative, you do not have ultimate control. There are still TONS of old school dems in power.

The progressive left has full control of the narrative moving forward at least until such time as Americans wake up and root them out like the useful fools they are and roundly reject socialism and embrace American exceptionalism. Nowadays, democrat voters won't even admit they have pride in their country. They don't even like the American flag. All they see is our original sins.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
893 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:57 pm to
Let’s be honest here, no matter how a protest is presented or how it’s conducted, there will be people that will have something to say. I’m a black guy with cop friends, I don’t think they are all bad but we do live in fear of cops. I don’t know how this can change in our society, but it’s scary.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17551 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Chuck Barris


Convicted felons have no right to speak on stage, but felons have the right to put citizens and police lives in danger without consequence. Got it.
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