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re: Bama's Cam Robinson, Hootie Jones Arrested on Felony stolen handgun and drugs
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:55 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:55 pm to JustGetItRight
It wasn't concealed carry. In Louisiana, you car is considered an extension of your home. Therefore, you don't need a permit to keep a gun in your car. Cam is also old enough to legally posess the handgun.
The issue is that the handgun was posessed in conjunction with the posession of weed. That SHOULD carry a minimun 5 year sentence, but it won't.
I do think the DA is going to avoid slapping these first time offenders with felonies, but they should recieve more than just a 1/2 game suspension.
The issue is that the handgun was posessed in conjunction with the posession of weed. That SHOULD carry a minimun 5 year sentence, but it won't.
I do think the DA is going to avoid slapping these first time offenders with felonies, but they should recieve more than just a 1/2 game suspension.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:55 pm to Funky Tide 8
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no, it's not like that at all. Violent crimes are completely different than non-violent crimes
There are people in Louisiana serving life in prison for getting caught smoking weed a few times. Last I checked there are nearly 100 non-violent criminals sentenced to life in prison in Louisiana
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:56 pm to Guava Jelly
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The guy from whom the gun was stolen now apparently "forgot" that he loaned it to him.
Citation needed. I've not seen one single report that identifies the owner of the weapon. It was reported stolen from a vehicle in Baldwin county, Alabama over a year ago.
Surely you didn't think that post by the Bama fan that "Baldwin County just remembered it loaned him the pistol" was serious, did you?
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No he doesn't. Both of these kids will get a half-game suspension vs WKU.
Yes, he does. He is currently charged with a felony that could result in several years in prison and could potentially face a second felony count. Those are pretty damned big problems.
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That makes zero sense to me. It's like taking an armed robbery charge and deciding the weapon, which was proven to be used in the crime, doesn't count.. and charge them for a lesser crime
It is called prosecutorial discretion and it happens all the time. Ever hear of someone getting found passed out behind the wheel of a running car, arrested for DUI, and later seeing the DA let him plead to Public Intoxication?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:56 pm to JustGetItRight
We did not have a case file. Just generally what happens in these situations
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:58 pm to djrunner
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Talking from my own personal experience, it is not. I speak from a wealth of experience spanning a pretty large sample size. Perhaps it isn't the same everywhere (it probably isn't), but it sure is in large swaths of the country.
quote:Are you telling us a state that has been known for decades as one of the most corrupt political systems in the country is above having a rich white kid's daddy pay their attorney to "take care" of drug charges?
Maybe in Alabama or Mississippi, not so much in Louisiana.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:59 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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It wasn't concealed carry. In Louisiana, you car is considered an extension of your home.
Which makes his assertion that CRob's mere possession of the pistol was illegal even more off base.
Interestingly and totally unrelated to the issue at hand, the Alabama legislature has twice tried to amend our law to consider the car an extension of the home. Both times the Sheriff's association has thrown a fit about how it is an officer safety issue. The real issue is they don't want to lose that $20 a year they get in pistol permits from people that just want to carry a weapon in their vehicle.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:01 pm to JustGetItRight
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Ever hear of someone getting found passed out behind the wheel of a running car, arrested for DUI, and later seeing the DA let him plead to Public Intoxication
Sure. But I've never seen a man passed out behind the wheel arrested for a DWI, possession of a stolen gun, and possession of illegal narcotics/drugs plea down to a misdemeanor
Brings up another interesting point.. per the police report they were in the car. Anyone else shocked there isn't a DWI charge?
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:05 pm to bmy
SO technically, they could've gotten a DWI, a federal charge for transporting a stolen firearm across state lines, and a felony for possessing a controlled substance while also possessing a firearm (stolen or not).
Sounds like they got off easy
Sounds like they got off easy
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:05 pm to bmy
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There are people in Louisiana serving life in prison for getting caught smoking weed a few times. Last I checked there are nearly 100 non-violent criminals sentenced to life in prison in Louisiana
And those people probably have a record that has as many pages as the Bible. That's different. Not the same situation here.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:06 pm to bmy
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Brings up another interesting point.. per the police report they were in the car. Anyone else shocked there isn't a DWI charge?
Just a guess, but probably once the officer smelled the weed and saw the gun, he decided a field sobriety test wasn't really necessary. Pretty much had all he needed to make an arrest.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:06 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Sounds like they got off easy
Team sweep
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:06 pm to JustGetItRight
That is 100% true. Cam is not being charged with illegal posession of a handgun because he is under the age of 21. He is being charged with illegal posession of a handgun because he was in posession of the handgun while having a controlled substance in the car.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:07 pm to bmy
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There are people in Louisiana serving life in prison for getting caught smoking weed a few times
Like Tyron Mathieu? No?
Kidding, obviously. I don't think he was ever arrested was he?
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:07 pm to Funky Tide 8
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And those people probably have a record that has as many pages as the Bible. That's different. Not the same situation here
If by a mile long.. you mean 3-4 drug charges, sure. It's Louisiana and they are crazy stiff on drugs
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:08 pm to bmy
Actually I am, my friend got hammered with a d.u.i because she failed a drug test, and she drove herself to the drug test.
But if it isn't down graded kinda sucks for them, louisiana does have a pre trial intervention program,for 1st time offenders, where you do plea guilty, but after you serve probation the charges gets swiped off their record. But since they have weapons charges I think they don't qualify.
But if it isn't down graded kinda sucks for them, louisiana does have a pre trial intervention program,for 1st time offenders, where you do plea guilty, but after you serve probation the charges gets swiped off their record. But since they have weapons charges I think they don't qualify.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:08 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
When do we think we'll hear their punishment from Alabama?
Should set an interesting precedent, whatever it is...
I assume not until the DA announces formally what charges they are pursuing/pleading to?
Wasn't Isaiah Crowell booted from UGA immediately for a similar thing despite the charges later being dropped? Can't remember if he had a criminal record though.
Should set an interesting precedent, whatever it is...
I assume not until the DA announces formally what charges they are pursuing/pleading to?
Wasn't Isaiah Crowell booted from UGA immediately for a similar thing despite the charges later being dropped? Can't remember if he had a criminal record though.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Like Tyron Mathieu? No?
No.
Tyrann failed LSU drug tests like 3 times, was kicked out of LSU, told he could work his way back on the team, then was in an apartment that was raided that had marijuana in it.
One brush with the law. One.
ETA:
And its Tyrann. He's an NFL star, it's not too hard to remember his name.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
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When do we think we'll hear their punishment from Alabama?
you wont
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
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When do we think we'll hear their punishment from Alabama?
My guess is not until the DA determines what he is going to do, probably.
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Wasn't Isaiah Crowell booted from UGA immediately for a similar thing despite the charges later being dropped? Can't remember if he had a criminal record though.
Yep he was - his situation was a bit different though. No drugs, but the gun had the serial number scratched off and if I remember it wasn't the first issue that had come up. I could be wrong though.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
If the pistol was truly reported stolen from a car in Baldwin County like another poster on here said, then yes. There are a few other charges he could of been slapped with. DWI, transporting a stolen weapon across state line, trespassing on state property.
Plus, as of now for some reason, they arn't considering the posession of a firearm with a controlled substance a felony. The only felony so far is the posession of a stolen firearm.
Plus, as of now for some reason, they arn't considering the posession of a firearm with a controlled substance a felony. The only felony so far is the posession of a stolen firearm.
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