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re: Bama's Cam Robinson, Hootie Jones Arrested on Felony stolen handgun and drugs

Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:55 pm to
It wasn't concealed carry. In Louisiana, you car is considered an extension of your home. Therefore, you don't need a permit to keep a gun in your car. Cam is also old enough to legally posess the handgun.

The issue is that the handgun was posessed in conjunction with the posession of weed. That SHOULD carry a minimun 5 year sentence, but it won't.

I do think the DA is going to avoid slapping these first time offenders with felonies, but they should recieve more than just a 1/2 game suspension.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:55 pm to
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no, it's not like that at all. Violent crimes are completely different than non-violent crimes


There are people in Louisiana serving life in prison for getting caught smoking weed a few times. Last I checked there are nearly 100 non-violent criminals sentenced to life in prison in Louisiana
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:56 pm to
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The guy from whom the gun was stolen now apparently "forgot" that he loaned it to him.


Citation needed. I've not seen one single report that identifies the owner of the weapon. It was reported stolen from a vehicle in Baldwin county, Alabama over a year ago.

Surely you didn't think that post by the Bama fan that "Baldwin County just remembered it loaned him the pistol" was serious, did you?

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No he doesn't. Both of these kids will get a half-game suspension vs WKU.


Yes, he does. He is currently charged with a felony that could result in several years in prison and could potentially face a second felony count. Those are pretty damned big problems.


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That makes zero sense to me. It's like taking an armed robbery charge and deciding the weapon, which was proven to be used in the crime, doesn't count.. and charge them for a lesser crime


It is called prosecutorial discretion and it happens all the time. Ever hear of someone getting found passed out behind the wheel of a running car, arrested for DUI, and later seeing the DA let him plead to Public Intoxication?
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:56 pm to
We did not have a case file. Just generally what happens in these situations
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Talking from my own personal experience, it is not. I speak from a wealth of experience spanning a pretty large sample size. Perhaps it isn't the same everywhere (it probably isn't), but it sure is in large swaths of the country.

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Maybe in Alabama or Mississippi, not so much in Louisiana.


Are you telling us a state that has been known for decades as one of the most corrupt political systems in the country is above having a rich white kid's daddy pay their attorney to "take care" of drug charges?
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 2:59 pm to
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It wasn't concealed carry. In Louisiana, you car is considered an extension of your home.


Which makes his assertion that CRob's mere possession of the pistol was illegal even more off base.

Interestingly and totally unrelated to the issue at hand, the Alabama legislature has twice tried to amend our law to consider the car an extension of the home. Both times the Sheriff's association has thrown a fit about how it is an officer safety issue. The real issue is they don't want to lose that $20 a year they get in pistol permits from people that just want to carry a weapon in their vehicle.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:01 pm to
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Ever hear of someone getting found passed out behind the wheel of a running car, arrested for DUI, and later seeing the DA let him plead to Public Intoxication


Sure. But I've never seen a man passed out behind the wheel arrested for a DWI, possession of a stolen gun, and possession of illegal narcotics/drugs plea down to a misdemeanor

Brings up another interesting point.. per the police report they were in the car. Anyone else shocked there isn't a DWI charge?
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:05 pm to
SO technically, they could've gotten a DWI, a federal charge for transporting a stolen firearm across state lines, and a felony for possessing a controlled substance while also possessing a firearm (stolen or not).

Sounds like they got off easy
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:05 pm to
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There are people in Louisiana serving life in prison for getting caught smoking weed a few times. Last I checked there are nearly 100 non-violent criminals sentenced to life in prison in Louisiana



And those people probably have a record that has as many pages as the Bible. That's different. Not the same situation here.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16163 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:06 pm to
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Brings up another interesting point.. per the police report they were in the car. Anyone else shocked there isn't a DWI charge?


Just a guess, but probably once the officer smelled the weed and saw the gun, he decided a field sobriety test wasn't really necessary. Pretty much had all he needed to make an arrest.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:06 pm to
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Sounds like they got off easy


Team sweep
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:06 pm to
That is 100% true. Cam is not being charged with illegal posession of a handgun because he is under the age of 21. He is being charged with illegal posession of a handgun because he was in posession of the handgun while having a controlled substance in the car.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:07 pm to
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There are people in Louisiana serving life in prison for getting caught smoking weed a few times


Like Tyron Mathieu? No?

Kidding, obviously. I don't think he was ever arrested was he?
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:07 pm to
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And those people probably have a record that has as many pages as the Bible. That's different. Not the same situation here


If by a mile long.. you mean 3-4 drug charges, sure. It's Louisiana and they are crazy stiff on drugs
Posted by Tiger2287
Member since Jan 2016
401 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:08 pm to
Actually I am, my friend got hammered with a d.u.i because she failed a drug test, and she drove herself to the drug test.

But if it isn't down graded kinda sucks for them, louisiana does have a pre trial intervention program,for 1st time offenders, where you do plea guilty, but after you serve probation the charges gets swiped off their record. But since they have weapons charges I think they don't qualify.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:08 pm to
When do we think we'll hear their punishment from Alabama?

Should set an interesting precedent, whatever it is...

I assume not until the DA announces formally what charges they are pursuing/pleading to?

Wasn't Isaiah Crowell booted from UGA immediately for a similar thing despite the charges later being dropped? Can't remember if he had a criminal record though.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:09 pm to
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Like Tyron Mathieu? No?


No.

Tyrann failed LSU drug tests like 3 times, was kicked out of LSU, told he could work his way back on the team, then was in an apartment that was raided that had marijuana in it.

One brush with the law. One.

ETA:

And its Tyrann. He's an NFL star, it's not too hard to remember his name.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:11 pm to
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When do we think we'll hear their punishment from Alabama?


you wont
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:11 pm to
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When do we think we'll hear their punishment from Alabama?


My guess is not until the DA determines what he is going to do, probably.

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Wasn't Isaiah Crowell booted from UGA immediately for a similar thing despite the charges later being dropped? Can't remember if he had a criminal record though.


Yep he was - his situation was a bit different though. No drugs, but the gun had the serial number scratched off and if I remember it wasn't the first issue that had come up. I could be wrong though.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12637 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 3:11 pm to
If the pistol was truly reported stolen from a car in Baldwin County like another poster on here said, then yes. There are a few other charges he could of been slapped with. DWI, transporting a stolen weapon across state line, trespassing on state property.

Plus, as of now for some reason, they arn't considering the posession of a firearm with a controlled substance a felony. The only felony so far is the posession of a stolen firearm.
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