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re: Bama won the conference.

Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:56 pm to
He was obviously trying to troll AU and LSU fans in that statement at the same time. He’s gotta atleast be consistent if he’s going to give state of the conference lectures. Either SEC titles mean something or they don’t. Arky doesn’t have either SEC title in twenty years or so but they’ve been pretty good in NCAAs. Kentucky has been no better than AU at either recently. Auburn has a Final Four, which no team has since South Carolina a year or so before.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:04 pm to
My post history speaks for itself on “trolling.”

I’ll admit I was focusing more on the last 4 years, which AU has 1 regular season conference championship since Oats arrived (and 5 losses out of 8). Weird flex to count a 2nd place finish and just the hope of post season success, but if you go back 6-10 years which was prior to our current coach then AU’s success is more sustained. Keep in mind, Bruce has only gotten them out of the first weekend once in like 9 years. Oats has done it twice in 4. The next 5 years will be telling.
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

I know people are struggling with self esteem more these days than ever, but try not to view yourself as a midget. It’s not a good look


SEC basketball is/was massively down this year…
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:23 pm to
I know this bball thing is new for y'all but the NCAA tournament is what matters.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:29 pm to
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but if you go back 6-10 years which was prior to our current coach then AU’s success is more sustained.


Well yeah, that’s why the flash in the pan comment was unwarranted given all the teams you listed. Auburn still made the round of 32 in a “down” year. The only time they would’ve missed NCAAs is the no fan year in the last six or seven years.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:43 pm to
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round of 32 in a “down” year.


Down year? Don’t you have to make it further than that more than once in the last 10 years to call that a down year? It’s more accurate to call it a ceiling than a down year.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22676 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:55 pm to
Yeah it was a down year overall. Auburn has a final four recently. So ceiling is unfair. I guess Sweet Sixteen ceiling for Bama is probably fair since you’re 1-9 in that round and the win was around 20 years ago. Arkansas has made the Elite 8 twice and Sweet Sixteen once in the last 3 years. So if you’re going to judge AU on NCAA success over the last few years to determine state of the conference, then you’re clearly behind them by a wide margin.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:05 pm to
Now you’re teetering back to the flash in the pan argument. 1 second weekend appearance in a decade seems to suggest that, even if it was a glorious final four run.

No Bama fan can hide from the fact that the S16 has been our ceiling. That’s an objective fact.

We’ve still made it to more 2nd weekends than AU over the past decade and have as many or more conference championships, despite our coach having less than 50% of the tenure as yours. No AU fan can hide from that. It’s objectively true.
Posted by REV-S
near tuscaloosa
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:07 pm to
So who cares. We have the only final four in the state.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:08 pm to
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’ve never seen a fan base whose identities were so intertwined with their athletic department’s success or failure.


It’s Bama. There’s shite else to do in that god forsaken state.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:12 pm to
whatever it is you are trying to say makes no sense. Auburn basketball has been a top tier SEC team for five of the last six seasons with the lone exception being the COVID year where the two best players on the team missed half of the season and the team was ineligible for postseason even if they had played. They still have Pearl as a head coach and they are still recruiting well, so it’s reasonable to expect they will continue to make noise in conference and make the NCAAT. This would mean they aren’t a “flash in the pan”.

In one of these five seasons, they made the Final 4 and probably should have won that game. Therefore, their ceiling as a program is clearly not the first weekend of the NCAAT because they demonstrated this. They might have demonstrated it the very next year with a senior laden team but we will never know because the postseason was cancelled. Either way, it’s a tournament of matchups, and with the right matchups Auburn will advance far into the tournament again. That’s really all there is to it.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22676 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:15 pm to
I’m not teetering towards anything. Auburn has been at the top or near for the conference since 2017-2018 in conference or tourney success. It doesn’t matter. Auburn has the only Final Four in that time frame and 3 conference titles to go with it. Arky may be more successful in tourney depending on how much you value a final four. No one else can even debate trading that timeframe with AU. AU is clearly better.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
2537 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:29 pm to
Maybe we should let Bruce make it to the 2nd weekend for a 2nd time in his tenure before crowning AU as the conference’s team to beat.

Especially since literally every team outside TN and KY has a different coach since Bruce’s lone NCAAT run. A lot has changed since 2019, and only time will tell if he can break through the first weekend again (so far 0-3 with the new coaches). Maybe it happens next season, or maybe Oats gets his 3rd in 5 years (probably not), guess time will tell.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 5:32 pm
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Bama won the conference.


You would think that we'd be hearing more about this crowning achievement, but for some reason everyone is talking about the teams still playing.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:43 pm to
Bama doesn’t value conference championships
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:44 pm to
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Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:58 pm to
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I get that other fan bases have a hard time with the nuances of history vs current state of the conference. That happens to programs who don’t understand sustained success, which is hard to do. Let try to simplify for you:

Current state of SEC football:
Georgia on top with Bama a very close 2nd (notice he didn’t say last 2 conference championships). There is no one else anywhere close.

Historical state of SEC football:
Bama stands alone…GA can enter the conversation as a historical competitor with 3-4 more NCs. No one else is even remotely close.

Current state of SEC basketball:
Bama is on top, with 2 of the last 3 years not being particularly competitive (check the records). Basketball has more games and upsets, but the conference dominance in the 2 years was pretty impressive. When’s the last time another school won both championships in the same season? Yet Bama’s done it twice in 3 years. Closest competitors are KY, Arky, TN, and maybe AU (though AU success looking a bit flash in the pan…aka LSU football)

Historical state of SEC Basketball:
Kentucky stands alone…there’s no one entering this conversation in the next 2 decades

Try to understand the difference between 1 hit wonders, a respectable multi-year season of excellence, and true greatness. I know that doesn’t make for good Rant trolling, but it at least keeps you from displaying embarrassing levels of ignorance


Facts. It's why every thread is about Alabama.


Saban has broken them so much that they actually cheer while UGA smashes their dicks off just as long as Bama doesn't win again.


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